Where to now?
subvert47
I don't fight, I run away
By ignoring young voters, Labour is creating an opening for the Greens
Young people want a strong state to bring about social equality and a green economy, but Keir Starmer isn’t offering this, says Guardian columnist Owen Jones
www.theguardian.com
Not just young voters either. I voted Green in 2005 and 2010. That's certainly looking like an option for 2024.
Murphy
cat malogen
Something to give Cummings nightmares
subvert47
I don't fight, I run away
New Year's resolution: to not be in the Labour Party
Direct debit duly cancelled 31.12.2020
I feel better already
Four-months-on resolution: to never think about nor vote for the Labour Party again – at least not until Keith and his useless bunch of sub-Tory fuckwits have left the building 😑
sufi
lala
Can you actually imagine the opposition that would actually deliver a sound defeat of the tories, i mean ffs, not even talking about elections - fuck these elections
the opposition should be kicking the tories at every turn,
If Labour (the party, the movement) is going to save itself, &/or even be worthwhile, it should be taking the struggle to the streets. Set up soup kitchens, food banks, tools libraries, self defense classes, legal challenges, filthy techno raves, crowdfunded milkshake justice, why the fuck not, why is this not happening?
That is how the Greens have picked up votes - organising with human beings. Starmer is a million miles from any of that but Corbyn should have known
Labour are sucked into this suit politics where they are always in Tory territory, lapping up the privilege, on councils and in the poxy corrupt parliament.
The Tories are an open goal - incompetent and corrupt - we deserve an opposition who defy them and dominate them, who exercise power to challenge them with marches and strikes and popular might: citizens arrests, dragging them to court, besieging their offices, divesting their businesses, occupying their ilegal enterprises, blockading their homes, burning their cars, boycotting their economy, creating an alternative,
(not this fucking suitjob pr blustering democracy faking shiiit# forget the internet, the culture war, the fake ballot box, and please demonstrate that "leadership" (or fuck off obviously, and let the greens step up) if labour or any party would mobilise like that, their next step would be electoral victory, so the question is can the labour party?
the opposition should be kicking the tories at every turn,
If Labour (the party, the movement) is going to save itself, &/or even be worthwhile, it should be taking the struggle to the streets. Set up soup kitchens, food banks, tools libraries, self defense classes, legal challenges, filthy techno raves, crowdfunded milkshake justice, why the fuck not, why is this not happening?
That is how the Greens have picked up votes - organising with human beings. Starmer is a million miles from any of that but Corbyn should have known
Labour are sucked into this suit politics where they are always in Tory territory, lapping up the privilege, on councils and in the poxy corrupt parliament.
The Tories are an open goal - incompetent and corrupt - we deserve an opposition who defy them and dominate them, who exercise power to challenge them with marches and strikes and popular might: citizens arrests, dragging them to court, besieging their offices, divesting their businesses, occupying their ilegal enterprises, blockading their homes, burning their cars, boycotting their economy, creating an alternative,
(not this fucking suitjob pr blustering democracy faking shiiit# forget the internet, the culture war, the fake ballot box, and please demonstrate that "leadership" (or fuck off obviously, and let the greens step up
) if labour or any party would mobilise like that, their next step would be electoral victory, so the question is can the labour party?
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sufi
lala
we should be more interested in who runs our neighbourhood agrecology committee, community transport network, transition town projects and our rave collective, our local forest school co-op, our ethical internet service provider () and online affinity group than which cunt shows up in a suit in westminster supposedly in our name, we need to take the power away from those people
) and online affinity group than which cunt shows up in a suit in westminster supposedly in our name, we need to take the power away from those people
subvert47
I don't fight, I run away
Can you actually imagine the opposition that would actually deliver a sound defeat of the tories, i mean ffs, not even talking about elections - fuck these elections
the opposition should be kicking the tories at every turn,
If Labour (the party, the movement) is going to save itself, &/or even be worthwhile, it should be taking the struggle to the streets. Set up soup kitchens, food banks, tools libraries, self defense classes, legal challenges, filthy techno raves, crowdfunded milkshake justice, why the fuck not, why is this not happening?
That is how the Greens have picked up votes - organising with human beings. Starmer is a million miles from any of that but Corbyn should have known
Labour are sucked into this suit politics where they are always in Tory territory, lapping up the privilege, on councils and in the poxy corrupt parliament.
The Tories are an open goal - incompetent and corrupt - we deserve an opposition who defy them and dominate them, who exercise power to challenge them with marches and strikes and popular might: citizens arrests, dragging them to court, besieging their offices, divesting their businesses, occupying their ilegal enterprises, blockading their homes, burning their cars, boycotting their economy, creating an alternative,
(not this fucking suitjob pr blustering democracy faking shiiit# forget the internet, the culture war, the fake ballot box, and please demonstrate that "leadership" (or fuck off obviously, and let the greens step up
Absolutely agree.
Corbyn did know this btw – a lot of his young support came via the direct action route – but it wasn't enough. Not when he got bogged down in Brexit and generally being the most awful person in the world ever.
As for Starmer, almost the first thing he did was shut down the Community Organizing unit. He's an idiot.
And that's all I have to say about that.
sufi
lala
A man said on the news last night something like: "Labour need to understand they are not just gonna saunter into power". quite.
in other news
Sadiq Khan has just launched his first initiative following his reeelection, promoting tourism - slogan "Let's do London". he is the biggest labour politician by a long way and should be paralysing the tories and liberating londoners. get your shit together innit
in other news
Sadiq Khan has just launched his first initiative following his reeelection, promoting tourism - slogan "Let's do London"
. he is the biggest labour politician by a long way and should be paralysing the tories and liberating londoners. get your shit together innit
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
It won't be, though, let's be honest here.
subvert47
I don't fight, I run away
You'll have to work harder than that to get a rise out of me 😘
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Unite policy conference backs new voting system for UK general elections - LabourList
Unite has passed a motion at its policy conference today that commits the Labour-affiliated trade union to opposing…
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luka
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the labour p[arty have no money. or so oliver tells me.
sufi
lala
they should be leading the non-capitalised resistance then, cheapskates