Wuhan Killer Sneeze (thanks Tea)

[Mr. Tea]

To go back a few pages...

You have to question why the big outbreaks now are in huge meat factories now and how this ties into why the pro-meat influencers are suddenly "covid is a myth"

Sounds like a there's a whole host of factors contributing to this:

Meat plants—a new front line in the covid-19 pandemic

These businesses failed in their duty to workers and the wider public health Slaughterhouses and meat packing plants have been a major risk for covid-19 infection throughout the pandemic.12 Now these outbreaks are centre stage.3 They affect whole communities, have far reaching implications, and...

www.bmj.com

Slaughterhouses and meat processing plants are favourable environments for SARS-CoV-2 transmission. The virus thrives in lower temperatures and very high or very low relative humidity. Metallic surfaces retain live viruses for longer than other environments. A dense production of aerosols combining dust, feathers, and faeces is produced in the plants, and intense water use carries materials extensively over surfaces. Workers must speak loudly or shout over the noise, releasing more droplets and spreading them further. Workplaces are crowded, and social distancing is difficult.

Other environmental issues that should be explored urgently include the possibility of airborne spread and the role of air filtration systems—already implicated in the outbreak in Gütersloh.

Sociodemographic and workforce factors implicated in these outbreaks include a youthful workforce more likely to have asymptomatic infections; insecure poorly paid employment that discourages workers from disclosing symptoms for fear of penalty; long hours and coercive contracts; a reliance on migrant workers housed in inadequate overcrowded accommodation and transported on overcrowded buses; and limited or non-existent hygiene measures.

Basically it's the kind of work Brits don't wanna do so it's done by assorted Slavs and Balts who are prepared to sleep six to a room, meaning they're at risk of infection both at 'home' and at work.

 

[luka]

In other words the same reasons why your meat is prone to infection. It's battery farmed.

 

[luka]

So I would say that although humanistic and compassionate the wire is essentially a conservative show.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Why's that?

Just cos lockdown can't be maintained til the others if they turn up end-2021

 

[Mr. Tea]

So I would say that although humanistic and compassionate the wire is essentially a conservative show.

I've only seen one episode but I thought it was about gangsters and cops in Baltimore, rather than Polish poultry workers in Britain?

 

[luka]

Posted it on the wrong thread but it made me laugh so I didn't delete it

 

[Mr. Tea]

They should definitely have had a sub-plot where one of them diversifies from heroin into dodgy chicken from Merthyr Tydfil.

 

[luka]

A meat works season would have definitely made sense

 

[IdleRich]

And as a result Thabo Mbeki swept to power in the next elections.

 

[Leo]

documented case of reinfection in Hong Kong. herd immunity?

 

[Mr. Tea]

documented case of reinfection in Hong Kong. herd immunity?

Well our man in Berlin (patty) was saying just the other day that he thinks he's had it twice.

 

[Leo]

so how does reinfection change the calculus of herd immunity?

 

[IdleRich]

I'd say that if reinfection is common place to the extent that immunity doesn't exist then it puts herd immunity as slightly below flat earthism as a workable theory.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

During his second infection, the man did not have any symptoms.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/08/24...tion-documented-in-hong-kong-researchers-say/

In other words, he responded in the same way he would have after a successful vaccination.

Panic averted!

 

[IdleRich]

But seeing as some people don't have any symptoms the first time then that's hardly evidence that a second infection behaves differently to the first.

 

[pattycakes_]

Well our man in Berlin (patty) was saying just the other day that he thinks he's had it twice.

The symptoms were never that strong either time. Just very distinctive and different to any other virus I've had. Didn't hang around that long either.

 

[Leo]

During his second infection, the man did not have any symptoms.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/08/24...tion-documented-in-hong-kong-researchers-say/

In other words, he responded in the same way he would have after a successful vaccination.

Panic averted!

that's only half of it, though. he could still be a carrier and spread the virus to others (including vulnerable people), particularly if he has no symptoms and thus stops social distancing, wearing a mask, etc.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Er, yeah, the thing about vaccines, @mixed_biscuits , is that people who've had them are not an infection risk to others!

 

[Mr. Tea]

I mean, this really is Vaccination 101.

 

[IdleRich]

Panic not averted!