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So, they would be happy for Bill to plough money into vaccines, provided they're not then forced to take them because Bill wants to recoup costs and make a packet on top from shares he bought earlier.
The right doesn't care about anyone getting "bossed around" (or incarcerated, oppressed, killed), as long as it's not them, and perhaps other people who look more or less like them.The right don't mind someone getting rich as long as they're not going to boss them around
That movement was basically the covid protest movement, which had people from all over the shop, politically speaking.Really both are the same thing- the system is shit and failing- but no-one has been able to identify or create a movement that encapsulates personal freedoms and anti-corporate sentiment yet
The centre of gravity was pretty clearly on the right.That movement was basically the covid protest movement, which had people from all over the shop, politically speaking.
Everyone on the left was anti Vax when trump was pushing it! Silly goose. We 'bember.The centre of gravity was pretty clearly on the right.
Show me some well-known left-wing anti-vaxx figures.
I'm talking about the common people, as previously statedThe centre of gravity was pretty clearly on the right.
Show me some well-known left-wing anti-vaxx figures.
I hear what you're saying, but I think the idea of "huge numbers of people not feeling represented by mainstream parties" is abundantly contradicted by the fact that Trump got 47% of the popular vote in 2020, and the year before that the Tories won the biggest landslide since Thatcher's first win in 1979. So both parties have undergone a massive shift towards reactionary populism. If you could go back in time 20 years and tell people that in the near future, Trump would be POTUS and Johnson PMUK, and that Roe vs Wade would be overturned and that the UK would vote to leave the EU on the basis of some racist lies about Turkey and the promise of jam tomorrow, they'd have thought you were nuts.If you remove the vaccine nonsense from the discussion i think you can summarise current situation by saying there are huge parts of the world's population- & this is not just a uk/us problem- who do not feel represensented by any mainstream party and thus begin to coalesce around other totemic figures and ideas in loose coalition of viewpoints
The traditional left in this country are being forcibly removed from Labour in huge numbers, or disenfranchised by the lurch to the centre when it needs some real bollock. So you end up with the RMT or whatever somehow becoming more representative of the working feller than the party of labour itself. There are probably plenty of morally Conservative people in these professions striking because they're getting fucked, too
Then you have people like Biscuits are "right" leaning but not necessarily sitting there wanking off the tories- they're the party who have implemented all the societal restrictions during covid that they think are shite, after all- so they end up falling into this libertarian concept as opposed to a traditional middle england conservative viewpoint
Really both are the same thing- the system is shit and failing- but no-one has been able to identify or create a movement that encapsulates personal freedoms and anti-corporate sentiment yet
Meanwhile the culture war continues to be rammed down your throat as a distractionary technique
Grouping in the batshit racist twitter people as representative of any real world majority is a terrible decision at any point
There is literally no statement so idiotic you won't make it, is there?Everyone on the left was anti Vax when trump was pushing it! Silly goose. We 'bember.
It's still a hard no.I'm talking about the common people, as previously stated
And you're not seriously saying Trump was "pushing" vaccination, are you? He quietly admitted that he'd got the shot and a lot of his nuttier fans disowned him, as I recall.
Everyone on the left was anti Vax when trump was pushing it! Silly goose. We 'bember.
yeah, that's 100% wrong. not only did democrats here always support a covid vaccine, but after Biden was elected, he made a point of crediting Trump's Operation Warp Speed for making it possible.
No, it's not about money; it's about freedom, maan - which the old left actually cared about once upon a time
The right don't mind someone getting rich as long as they're not going to boss them around
What in the Wikipedia revisionism are you talking about?
Here is an extensive list of things Trump said or did in relation to the pandemic and the vaccination programme:What in the Wikipedia revisionism are you talking about?