Cringeworthy

[Corpsey]

I don't feel patriotic at all most of the time except when other people attack England. Then I ripple with rage and feel fit to spear a Frenchman in a field.

 

[sadmanbarty]

i do think britain's reputation is completely off. we're the most emotionally honest and the most sexually liberated people in the world.

 

[luka]

Whereas Italians (for instance) are all Virgins who live with their mums

 

[sadmanbarty]

Whereas Italians (for instance) are all Virgins who live with their mums

i'm not italian!

 

[Corpsey]

Tribalism is such a strong instinct, it's as strong as the sex drive.

And unlike the sex drive, it's a drive I can easily satisfy - by hating ILX, for example.

See also: Anders Breivik.

 

[Corpsey]

I reckon this cuts both ways though. I'd also cringe if someone I knew irl were to transcribe the boring, fumbling conversations I have with them and post them on Dissensus.

This is a good post cos it flags up how we have about 10 different faces that we display to different people, and when two different groups meet in our presence it's almost invariably horrible.

 

[luka]

I got over that in my twenties

 

[shiels]

The anti patriotic schtick isn’t just about colonial guilt, it’s also a class signifier which you did touch on. It’s gauche to be patriotic. True power doesn’t need to sell itself. All that understated class confidence and practiced deference and self deprecation is part of the game. That’s your patriotism. There’s so much pride in it.

 

[luka]

I discovered that there is nothing more hilarious and entertaining than making the universes collide.

 

[Corpsey]

I think you must have had a head injury of some sort and it unlocked superpowers.

 

[luka]

I used to take them all on a bike ride. Scout leader. The middle class ones from Hampstead the Africans the West Indians the cockneys the Essex boys. Everyone together. Some of the best days I've had. Everyone bonded by a love of smoking weed in the sun shine.

 

[shiels]

I enjoy that too. Bringing different friend groups or family together and watching what happens. They always unite in insulting you and laughing at your inadequacies, connecting over their common enemy.

 

[luka]

I enjoy that too. Bringing different friend groups or family together and watching what happens. They always unite in insulting you and laughing at your inadequacies, connecting over their common enemy.

Exactly.

 

[Corpsey]

The anti patriotic schtick isn’t just about colonial guilt, it’s also a class signifier which you did touch on. It’s gauche to be patriotic. True power doesn’t need to sell itself. All that understated class confidence and practiced deference and self deprecation is part of the game. That’s your patriotism. There’s so much pride in it.

Yeah the English (presumably the middle-upper especially) are proud of their sense of irony. We'll always bash the yanks with this. "No sense of irony, those Americans". And those of us who are above that stereotyping stuff like to still bash them with it, but with irony.

 

[Corpsey]

What we're like is like Scar in The Lion King. America is Mufasa - our virile, rapacious big brother who took over the pride when we were promised it.

There we are, sneering in the shadows. Evil but sexy.

 

[sadmanbarty]

What we're like is like Scar in The Lion King.

much cooler and we don't get run over by a few feral cows

 

[Corpsey]

Clearly you've not seen the lion king

 

[luka]

Is that tonight's compulsory house mate movie? All snuggled up under the duvet together. Big bowl of doritos with nacho cheese dip. Bottle of Lambrusco.

 

[sadmanbarty]

never be friendly with house mates. it'll steel all your freedom and agency.

 

[Corpsey]

I don't want to be, believe me, but I think it's becoming obvious now we're cellmates.