Cringeworthy

william kent

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There are people who can wield cringe like a sword. I'm thinking of Sacha Baron Cohen, Norm Macdonald and Nathan Fielder-types who seem immune to embarrassment.
 
Whereas if this is the only space you are allowed to be a pretentious cunt (and be understood) then obviously it's different and there's a kind of threatening space there between different self presentations

It's one place where you can sustain being a pretentious cunt and might be taken seriously, where the reach is encouraged.
 
Corrective is right, a social cohesion corrective, a reflex. But I think if you stay with the discomfort and look at it from a few angles you can grown and learn about the social environment. I think the corrective cringe reveals there's no core self, reveals the social construction, it's an immune response trying to keep a certain bundle together for the cohesiveness of the herd
 

luka

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I mean, I can't pretend that I can do my thing with all my mates and expect them to follow me let alone join in. But they tolerate it for the most part, on those occasions when I do decide to inflict it on them. Probably rolling their eyes. But they tolerate it.
 

luka

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Corrective is right, a social cohesion corrective, a reflex. But I think if you stay with the discomfort and look at it from a few angles you can grown and learn about the social environment. I think the corrective cringe reveals there's no core self, reveals the social construction, it's an immune response trying to keep a certain bundle together for the cohesiveness of the herd

Yeah there's something in that and as Sufi said there's much more chance for dissonance between different selves now we have these various internet mediated selves to juggle. floundering in an existential void between different self presentations horrible panic.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Last time I saw mr tea he kept shrieking yass queen and trying to high five me

I have no memory of this but every time I've met luka IRL he's either plied me with psychedelic drugs or forced me to buy endless rounds of 7% craft beer, so it's entirely possible.
 
Yeah there's something in that and as Sufi said there's much more chance for dissonance between different selves now we have these various internet mediated selves to juggle. floundering in an existential void between different self presentations horrible panic.

That's why it's interesting to prod and push against the reflex. Who set the parameters? Where are they inherited from and are they holding you back? what does this medium expect of you? how is this imagined audience imprisoning you, who do you want to be etc
 

luka

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Well yes, I agree. As I say I've put conscious deliberate work into doing just that in an effort to win myself a wider range and field of movement. I think it's vitally important. I've said on here before how as a stoned paranoid teenager I could be cripplingly self conscious so this all felt like very necessary and urgent work
 

luka

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And England enforces, particularly outside London, a group idiocy. Ireland too I'm sure. Levelling down as the famous Nazi Heidegger put it.
 

william kent

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I was actually referring to me use 'immune response' and 'herd'... but yes we have to stan, i am dead etc

Yeah, I was just making a general point about how language is picked up on Twitter, like when everyone started saying 'optics' or became overnight experts on Soleimani.
 
Yes and here I think of masculinity as a great restrictor. When cringing i'm probably more likley to imagine the sneers of teenage bully boys or men you think are cooler smarter more successful
 
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