hmg

Victory lap
Released Jan 1 1992


From around 5'10" when it goes into auto fidget head nod mode is incredible.

On reflection, this might be IT for me. Does everything a hardcore track should do. Perfection.


Caspar Pound of Rising High has always been an enigma to me, but this interview with Colin Faver from 1992 is revealing — very uncommercial mindset, maybe a little spiky, heavily influenced by experiences in German clubs, sceptical of democratisation of production and landfill hardcore. It also explains who Pypee is. Worth a listen

 

0bleak

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I agree with this though. 92-93 is really when techno gets a totally defined identity.

I was talking to @blissblogger about this a few years ago. if you look at 90-91 colin faver/dale shows, the techno is still very much mixed up with UK breakbeat. Then by mid 92 into 93 the breakbeats progressively disappear. Probably inevitable that one had to make a choice.

By late 92 and beginning of 93 the techno also disappears from the hardcore djs setlists, so it was a mutual separation by all accounts.

Whatever the reason, it's because, for me, the production started becoming more interesting. I don't know if a split needed to happen for that to happen.


My trajectory is pretty simple to follow if you understand that I've foremost been interested in electronic sounds and noises within the context of dance music which is why I sort went like this (this is very simplified, however, because it's not like it was strictly followed, it would sort of leave out things like Public Enemy and Eric B & Rakim):

electro-rap into ebm into techno
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Kind wish I was a huge Sasha /Digweed fan on here, pronouncing 1992 an annual horribulus for dance music "a bunch of stupid noise"

"pray silence please for the saviour, for lo! He is come into us: Sir Jonathan Digweed".
 

0bleak

Well-known member
@thirdform

Another reason I wasn't keen on using the very limited resources available to me to drop money on unknown (to me) 12"s was that this one of the big tracks from the 92 uk hardcore scene, and it's pretty much the opposite of what I wanted from electronic music:
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
@thirdform

Another reason I wasn't keen on using the very limited resources available to me to drop money on unknown (to me) 12"s was that this one of the big tracks from the 92 uk hardcore scene, and it's pretty much the opposite of what I wanted from electronic music:


It wasn't actually that big in the local scene per se and derided by all credible djs, but it got in the charts and suburban bass licensed it to a lot of comps, I read the book of one of the guys who made it. They did a whole American tour and all, even signed a deal with one of your majors over there but it all fell through as they wanted balads on the album. etc.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
Kind wish I was a huge Sasha /Digweed fan on here, pronouncing 1992 an annual horribulus for dance music "a bunch of stupid noise"

"pray silence please for the saviour, for lo! He is come into us: Sir Jonathan Digweed".

what prompted this comment lmao.

Here is your saviour



It's not very exciting, i must be honest. I would rather be damned to sufferring the hellish drug noise.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
this one is decent though, played by that lot. got enough mk on LSD hooligan DNA running through it

Andronicus - Make You Whole



But yeah, two of the most boring and overrated djs to have ever existed.
 

0bleak

Well-known member
what prompted this comment lmao.

i'm guessing the cybersonik along with a few tracks I posted

From what I was hearing going out, DJs would very rarely, if ever, play that kind of really noisy stuff, though.

stuff closer to Seawolf, or that Hardfloor track @Murphy posted, would be more accurate from what I was hearing at raves at that time
 

0bleak

Well-known member
i'm guessing the cybersonik along with a few tracks I posted

From what I was hearing going out, DJs would very rarely, if ever, play that kind of really noisy stuff, though.

stuff closer to Seawolf, or that Hardfloor track @Murphy posted, would be more accurate from what I was hearing at raves at that time

I should clarify that I mean that is within places I went, primarily in the Charlanta area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlanta
I'm sure they were playing the crazier stuff in places like New York like at the stormraves and whatever.
And also of course the big "ravey" sounds were still a thing, but it depended a lot on the particular DJ and there could be literally dozens of DJs in one night, like on a "flier" (not sure if flier is the best word, more like thick cardstock, printed in full color on both sides) I found a couple of years ago for an old one I went to in ~93 in Charlotte there were just tons and tons of names (they must have been changing DJs every hour, I guess!) - wish I could find it again, but it's buried under piles of stuff again, but I actually remembered purposely saving that one back then because back then I thought it was the coolest thing ever - it was named Future World :ROFLMAO:
 
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