The Culture War
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entertainment
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another thing about twitter, there's such an automatic tendency to place people on that little coordinate system in your head. what's their take on that? what group do they fall in on this subject? you want them organized nice and neatly into boxes. i do this, everybody does this.
it's a reflexive process. you see people in boxes and you start behaving accordingly. tribal lines are drawn up. declare your loyalty at every turn or be excommunicated.
sometimes you feel you are expected to lie, to concede your world view to the cause. lying reinforces loyalty of course. it's a method of fortifying the ranks.
it starts out innocuously. adding nuance is pedantery, useless. why are you undermining the message with useless details?
but then it grows...
the bigger the lie, the higher the sunk cost of comitting to it. sunk costs = psychological investment = eschewing doubt and skepticism.
it's a reflexive process. you see people in boxes and you start behaving accordingly. tribal lines are drawn up. declare your loyalty at every turn or be excommunicated.
sometimes you feel you are expected to lie, to concede your world view to the cause. lying reinforces loyalty of course. it's a method of fortifying the ranks.
it starts out innocuously. adding nuance is pedantery, useless. why are you undermining the message with useless details?
but then it grows...
the bigger the lie, the higher the sunk cost of comitting to it. sunk costs = psychological investment = eschewing doubt and skepticism.
entertainment
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another thing is how instead of disputing a certain viewpoint on its terms, people smear it,, make fun of it, paint it as so clueless that the viewpoint is a satire of anyone on that side. make it so anyone who would consider the viewpoint is preemptively scared off in fear of humiliation.
a popular way of doing this is this annoying thing: "tHis PoSiTiOn iS sO LaMe It'S BeYoNd SaTiRe"
a popular way of doing this is this annoying thing: "tHis PoSiTiOn iS sO LaMe It'S BeYoNd SaTiRe"
entertainment
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just trying to sketch out the dynamics, i think it's interesting
entertainment
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from McLuhan's Playboy interview:
"But most people, from truck drivers to the literary Brahmins, are still blissfully ignorant of what the media do to them; unaware that because of their pervasive effects on man, it is the medium itself that is the message, not the content, and unaware that the medium is also the message–that, all puns aside, it literally works over and saturates and molds and transforms every sense ratio. The content or message of any particular medium has about as much importance as the stenciling on the casing of an atomic bomb"
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
an excellent, directly on-topic piece by a Black British writer. just read it, he says it all better and more thoroughly than I could
What Black America Means to Europe
What Black America Means to Europe
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
Zwarte Piet - Netherlands' blackface Santa Claus analogue - is trending on Dutch Twitter rn
I find it weird to be asked to have an opinion.
entertainment
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Very good. Gary Younge was always brilliant for The Guardian.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
It was a real shock seeing blacked-up white guys out in public when I lived in the Netherlands a few years ago, let me tell you.
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
World War Weird
entertainment
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Posting on twitter is an inherently aesthetic performance and nuance is simply aesthetically boring. I don't know how much you can do about this.
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john eden
male pale and stale
I don't really give a shit to be honest. The people who are defending it and saying that it's Orwellian and doing the mock horror thing about "ooh people are saying that anyone who ever enjoyed the programme is a racist how very dare they" are more irritating than the people who are saying its shit and should be taken down. It's not like I would ever watch it again.
It was, on reflection, shit for a whole number of reasons.
Leo
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my wife say whenever I estimate how long ago something happened, the actual answer is usually at least double.
john eden
male pale and stale
I think it’s so tokenistic that you don’t need to worry. It’s literally the minimum effort for these media companies to appear like they care.