a nadir for English culture it's truethis is the defnition of english music to me. totally inadequate and offensive.
This is true - maybe you could argue that recontextualising stuff for a pop audience is an innovation of some kind. Though not sure I would.see, this is exactly what I can't countenance in re Bowie's actual music
when someone says he has really good hooks or melodies or whatever, I don't agree, but that's just down to taste so it's whatever
but this - he was the opposite of an innovator. his entire career was finding innovative things and making them palatable for a broad pop audience.
not that there's anything wrong with being a popularizer. just with getting undeserved credit for innovation.
what's the famous Jagger line? "Make sure you don't wear a new pair of shoes around David" (or he'll steal them) or whatever
this is the defnition of english music to me. totally inadequate and offensive.
see, this is exactly what I can't countenance in re Bowie's actual music
when someone says he has really good hooks or melodies or whatever, I don't agree, but that's just down to taste so it's whatever
but this - he was the opposite of an innovator. his entire career was finding innovative things and making them palatable for a broad pop audience.
not that there's anything wrong with being a popularizer. just with getting undeserved credit for innovation.
what's the famous Jagger line? "Make sure you don't wear a new pair of shoes around David" (or he'll steal them) or whatever
Bowie actually was very good at picking people to create an ersatz band energy / sound-identity, he had a run of successful quasi-groups (the best being the one with Carlos Alomar in)
The curvature can be already observed at the Temple of Apollon in Corinth from 540 BCE, the floor plan has obvious similarities to that of Parthenon II, and the combination of Doric and Ionic decorative elements was, as previously noted, already realized in the Old Temple. It is in the combination of all these features within one single monument together with the level of perfection and sophistication that the architect(s) reached that make the Parthenon such a stupendous example of Greek architecture.
and again, this is the weird modernist/avant inclination, where the only worthwhile step is inventing something new, and talent-scouting/integration/deployment of innovations can only be interpreted as "appropriation" or "theft"
this is a strange way of thinking, seeing as almost all enduring "Great" works are syntheses of existing innovations and styles, be it Shakespeare or the Parthenon or Michael Jordan's playstyle or Beatles' Revolver. the "mere" innovations, meanwhile, tend to fade from memory because "doing work" in a sheer, human-friendly way—i.e., putting innovation to use—is just as important a step as the innovation itself.
It's strange—what use is innovations if no one uses them? Why is the use of innovations "theft" instead of "tribute"? Isn't the entire point of innovations to expand the toolkit?
this is the defnition of english music to me. totally inadequate and offensive.
i actujally agree with this. i feel this deserves a formal announcement cos usually Suspendedreason is notable for saying all sorts of things i definitely dont agree with.
There are two commonplace ‘pictures’ of what art is that we use to justify the pursuit of art. One pictures says that great art describes the human condition, or expresses our innermosts experiences, or connects us to our unattended thoughts and feelings, or allows us to reflect on our life and memories and circumstances, or to empathize with others or to commune with the cosmos or to understand material conditions of life or whatever. Apart from being kind of old and uncool, this picture’s inconsistent with how crucial ‘gaming’ the cultural moment is for making good art… the second picture says that there’s a thing called ‘culture,’ which is a sort of social structure that’s formed out of the interaction of everyone’s world-views and desires and beliefs and in turn structures the evolution of everyone’s world-views and desires and beliefs, and making art is a way of intervening in that structure. So on this picture art is a form of politics, in the sense that making art is making a historical intervention in a collective structure.
Dunno where I read this but I read quite recently about Bowie making Iggy Pop's album in Berlin and being unable to eat anything cos he was so strung out. And I believe it climaxed with Bowie dribbling an egg into his mouth from a spoon and passing out on the floor.
I've noticed food tends to make me complacent, I dunno if others have felt or noticed