Idle Rich Turns `The Wheel of Time.'

[luka]

of an evil tainted land?

 

[IdleRich]

but it would be a Moorish Spain if so wouldn't it. so you get these natural blurrings of the lines in any case.

Yeah but is it near the Moorish analogues. I dunno, I won't claim to know the map.

 

[IdleRich]

Isn't stone henge for one a real world correlative?

I mean wandering confused through ancient incomprehensible relics.

 

[luka]

oh, in that case, definitely

 

[luka]

the more i think about it the more it does seem rooted in the geopolitical situation of europe from ancient greece through to the medieval age.
India doesn't have a particualry strong grip on the fantasy imagination either.

 

[luka]

it's almost as if there needs to have been significant mitary clashes with European forces. Alexander went to war with India but apart from that there wasn't much.

 

[luka]

@Mr. Tea do some work on this thread stop idling

 

[luka]

you do get Tibet. Largely by way of the Theosophists.

 

[luka]

the mahatmas.

According to the Theosophical teachings, the Mahatmas are not disembodied beings, but highly evolved people involved in overseeing the spiritual growth of individuals and the development of civilizations. Blavatsky was the first person in modern times to claim contact with these Adepts, especially the "Masters" Koot Hoomi and Morya. Alvin Boyd Kuhn wrote about mahātmās:[7]

The Masters whom Theosophy presents to us are simply high-ranking students in life's school of experience. They are members of our own evolutionary group, not visitants from the celestial spheres. They are supermen only in that they have attained knowledge of the laws of life and mastery over its forces with which we are still struggling.

 

[Mr. Tea]

@Mr. Tea do some work on this thread stop idling

I've been held up by the unfortunate necessity of earning a living.

 

[luka]

I've been held up by the unfortunate necessity of earning a living.

 

[Mr. Tea]

 

[IdleRich]

There is gonna be a Wheel of Time tv series soon I think. Casting sounds stupid already though - Rosamund Pike is Gandalf and it seems as though cos she is the biggest star that the tv series will be focused more on her than on Rand Al'Thor the Dragon Reborn.
Also all the village yokels look like models from what I can see which doesn't ring true either.

 

[luka]

what are the major categories of landscape, ie the backdrops and stage sets for your characters?

desert, https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Tatooine

jungle https://james-camerons-avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Pandora

forest https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Endor

mountains

swamp

the frozen north https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Skyrim

the grasslands the steppe the prarie https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Dothraki_Sea

???

@woops what do you think? and if you wanted to avoid, for reasons of fatidiousness, 'borrowing like magpies' how would you go ab out creating a setting? is it possible to do?

 

[luka]

even if you say, well, how about people that live on the water, you have precedents

Moken - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[woops]

well i think the first thing i'd do would be to insist against the odds to yourself that such a thing is possible

 

[woops]

your list above reminds me of reading rulebooks for AD&D style RPGs as a teenager where you'd have different dice roll conditions for each of those terrains or whatever

further to the list

on board ship / starship

apocalyptic wasteland

cyberpunk sprawl

underwater

 

[woops]

you wanted to avoid, for reasons of fastidiousness, 'borrowing like magpies' how would you go about creating a setting? is it possible to do?

you'd look at the logic of dreams and how they juxtapose all kinds of crap and invent their own connections perhaps, take the inside of your head as a model rather than the world outside. but i agree it's difficult and probably impossible in a pure form

 

[luka]

you lose a huge amount by trying to create from scratch as well. you lose all those rich associations which connect your story with all the other stories.

 

[luka]

im really just pushing back against sufi here because i think hes wrong in a way characteristic of radio 4 listeners