sufi
lala
good point
The Mask (and Hypocrisy)
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padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
I think it's more about the public and private self than the written and spoken self, probably
tho they are related - a key point seems like increases in ability to store and recall publicly expressed opinions
i.e. pre-printing press, creating physical copies of things was a v laborious process
then printing press, eventually film, the Internet - all reducing the friction, as an engineer might put it, of opinion recall
so there's a greater impetus to curate yourself
tho they are related - a key point seems like increases in ability to store and recall publicly expressed opinions
i.e. pre-printing press, creating physical copies of things was a v laborious process
then printing press, eventually film, the Internet - all reducing the friction, as an engineer might put it, of opinion recall
so there's a greater impetus to curate yourself
woops
is not like other people
this kind of applied multiple personality disorder is not easy. it can take years to master. bear in mind @sadmanbarty only pretended to be a russian on shore leave. when @luka goes out on the pull he is a russian on shore leave.
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
again, I think this is related to authenticity as a kind of currency - verified accounts etc
if anyone can hide behind a sock puppet or some other form of pseudonymity/anonymity it increases the value of authenticity
tho the relation between "actual" personality and online personality is, I'd agree with luke (and shiels?), fluid
shiels
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what is 'actual personality'? personality is somewhat of a mask. we only have an identity in relation to others, an audience... ie its performative and a performance is always a collaboration between art and audience. them psychoanalysts understand personality as the armour, the mask we build to protect ourselves against the unpredictability and pain and fleeting potentials for pleasure in the world
shiels
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luka freaking me out again by saying what i think before i write it
sufi
lala
comes back to what you were on about a lot = writing as a way to explore, to find out what you think, a journey into the unknown
so it's more like the performance takes you over, but how does that work when the performance is online and you're just a lonely git in his underwear in front of the screen
woops
is not like other people
that, in fact is where @sadmanbarty got the idea from.
sufi
lala
yes indeed - the written self, the created personaility, the projected identity or ...
the monkey
luka
Well-known member
just in terms of going, oh, this is all just a laugh isnt it. something to mess about with
shiels
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can remember some famous writer analysing the role of the waiter as a starting point for this stuff, who is it?
luka
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i dont really do it anymore but i used to find people so tedious the only way i could survive talking to them was by turning it into a game and making up loads of stories. not lies designed to deceive exactly. just tall stories. i always felt suffocated by other people. had to make it into a performace and a fun game.
luka
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i am interested in this stuff. ive been shaped by all sorts of quite different social contexts and what not. i cant go as far as shiels and say there's nothing there. that doesnt jibe with my experience. its malleable but its hard to shake the sense of some coherent something in there, buried deep down inside.