Best rapper in the UK at the moment?

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I see the American doesn't buy into the casualness of UK rap, or doesn't understand that was the point. There are no huge dreams of success in this music, we are not doing hype Williams videos, it's about buying goose in the corner shops and triangular 1980s estates. That's the appeal it is anti-gloss

Probably why all the modern stuff feels so artificial now
 
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One moment a little scum person transcended and escaped their fate for three minutes one thing you believe in
 
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I remember being a young boy and a white lad called lethal turned up at my achool around 1997
 
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Krept & Konan are good examples of people who have managed to buck the trend in terms of longevity I guess. Whether the music is actually as good or as energised as the original Redrum tape is a different question though

What do you want from UK music- minimal professional gloss or the raw unpolished style. I can see the merits of both but I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to any new Krept as it just doesn't gave the vitality of early stuff, to me

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The modern day commercialisation of London-led MC music has made a lot of people a lot of money I'm sure, and sure there's a strange internal pride some probably feel about this, but the scruffiness and ephemerality of the earlier structures just feels much more substantial to me. Maybe I am being too romantic.
 
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i never was into Krept and Konan even by punchline rap standards some of the bars from them that people would lose their minds over were lame even by like mid 00s NY mixtape rapper standards.

i remember a while back some people were ridiculing the fact that certain people were calling Digga D some lyrical mastermind for saying shit like "see a op right thurr and get chingy" and all i could think was how that sounds no better or worse to punchlines i've heard from 2009 so people need to be honest with themselves lol
 
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i'll admit the anti-gloss and the sort of low rent Britishness of scenes was part of the charm and something that people took pride in

But then you have to wonder if commercialisation hit earlier alot of of the now 30 year olds now wouldn't have immediatly tried to make expensive glossy videos from the jump
 
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i also feel like if wanted to you could make a blithe comparison to how the media and music festivals going from pushing mid-tier indie rock long after interest in that stuff was dead to every shotter under the sun crooning about spending 30 bags in Harrods and how they rep their bros is similiar to how the news media in britian shifted from talking about the North and the rest of England to now ONLY talking about London and the resentment and alienation people from the suburbs and provincial towns feel as a result.

its pretty much accepted ever since 2016 that provincial town nihilism is a very real and frightening thing once upon a time dem youts had bands like Oasis and them to look to but now lad rocks been dead so they look to shit like Aitch now
 
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On the subject of Digga, saw the Chingy video on 4Music on Freeview where he repeatedly makes a knifing down motion when talking about seeing his "opps" .

Put me off my brekky a little bit...
 
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potter was more or less fresh out of jail when he got the number 3 album in the country with a mixtape, and not an album disguised as a mixtape in case it flops but the final act in a trilogy that began in the road rap era aka a lifetime ago. it's the consensus "project" of the year and ticks alot of the boxes in here (ex-con rap with road/purist, middle england/ukstreetblogs appeal) but he's white so you lot probably don't care. on another note i find it kind of depressing how real rap revivalism has hit an apex stateside while all the good shit we had going on over here in that vein has pretty much died out.
 
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I see dutchavelli is about to get cancelled for "allegedly" running around with his deceased managers 15 y/o niece

Haven't heard the Potter album yet but he is levels above 3/4 of the scene regardless
 
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Really rate both Potter and Dutchavelli (allegations notwithstanding). "Only If You Knew" is one of the best tracks of the year in rap and any genre this year imo.
 
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trilliam said:
potter was more or less fresh out of jail when he got the number 3 album in the country with a mixtape, and not an album disguised as a mixtape in case it flops but the final act in a trilogy that began in the road rap era aka a lifetime ago. it's the consensus "project" of the year and ticks alot of the boxes in here (ex-con rap with road/purist, middle england/ukstreetblogs appeal) but he's white so you lot probably don't care. on another note i find it kind of depressing how real rap revivalism has hit an apex stateside while all the good shit we had going on over here in that vein has pretty much died out.
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Potter's good i still ride for that Regina ep he did a while back, as far as the real rap ting i think it has to do with everything moving the southern rap techniques. stuff like Marci and Griselda is seen as a "underground" thing so it's deemed the place of nerds or whatever, we spent so long doing the NYesque ting i feel like alot of people don't want to go back to that and stick to trap even though at this point as far as US rap goes trap is played out.

Shit like this is why i don't understand why fans and rappers in this country still place such an importance on "having bars" cause imo people aren't rapping like east coast rappers generally speaking, flows have changed dramatically and there's bare guys using autotune and concentrating on melodies rather than just words and syntax
 
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