Milton H Erickson

[Woebot]

just came across this fascinating hypnotherapist (puts the therapy back in hypnotherapy!)

https://www.youtube.com/user/ericksonfoundation

it seems like there's a shit-ton (to use a technical term) of stuff to look at but this seemed broadly representative



wiki entry here

Milton H. Erickson - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[luka]

Often feel as though auto hypnosis is the secret to everything

 

[luka]

Trance is obviously cool and is sort of the antithesis of what people think of as mindfulness, ie, being 'here.' Trance is being 'there'.

 

[luka]

It's not always important to be 'here'. It's often very boring to be 'here' and you're far better off trying to get 'there'.

 

[hmg]

Is the mainstream fixation on mindfulness partly about closing down visionary thought? I remember a teacher in primary school telling 6yo me to get my head out of the clouds. I hated her after that.

 

[luka]

Yes, that's exactly what it is. An act of violence.

 

[Woebot]

Is the mainstream fixation on mindfulness partly about closing down visionary thought? I remember a teacher in primary school telling 6yo me to get my head out of the clouds. I hated her after that.

that's very true about mindfulness. it aspires to induce a kind of transcendent integration but could just as easily bring one back to a very normal and boring reality.

in Buddhism it's packaged up with a whole load of things (most obviously non-attachment and compassion) which if included do, at least theoretically, create a kind of magical/liminal experience of "reality".

in Buddhism in many ways the practice of mindfulness is the necessary grounding corollary to the dreamy state you get into through ascetism.

 

[constant escape]

Thats why I think mindfulness, as a practice, is so conducive to culturally liberal professionalism. Being good at being here is a character asset, no? Being good at being there just makes you difficult to work with.

edit: from a perspective of professionalism, that is.

 

[constant escape]

There is a sort of neoliberal-friendly pseudo-enlightenment to be found here. Maximizing every opportunity, being robustly present as much as you can. Its like a sort of gracious libidinization of productiveness.

 

[constant escape]

All things considered, I think I'd condone it in most cases. So long as mindfulness extends beyond presentness and into thoughtfulness.

 

[luka]

All things considered, I think I'd condone it in most cases. So long as mindfulness extends beyond presentness and into thoughtfulness.

cos you are a capitalist psychopath

 

[constant escape]

But also a utopian, a bourgeois roundabout communist.

Also the condoning is conditional, namely on the condition that I personally don't have to be present among such professionals.

 

[luka]

Ok, you're off the hook

 

[constant escape]

That was easy.

 

[woops]

what about the erotic bit? @constant escape

 

[constant escape]

What erotic bit?

 

[constant escape]

@woops I don't follow

 

[woops]

cross reference to another thread defining dissensus as 1/3 kapital, 1/3 commune, 1/3 erotic wonderland (was meant as an obscure compliment i suppose) edit: please ignore me

 

[constant escape]

cross reference to another thread defining dissensus as 1/3 kapital, 1/3 commune, 1/3 erotic wonderland (was meant as an obscure compliment i suppose) edit: please ignore me

No, no I like it. Just didn;t get the reference.

 

[hmg]

I thought the name was familiar My wife was a hypnotherapist for a spell and Milton Erickson was a major figure. We've a books about him My Voice Will Go with You: The Teaching Tales of Milton H. Erickson. I might dig it out and read it after the Huygens.