The Antisocial Libido

[constant escape]

Why is there so much wank talk on dissensus? Why don't you freaks make your own thread to talk about it so that the rest of us don't get ambushed by your random spurtings every thread we go in?

Kinda want to do a brief taxonomy here, just to calibrate our understandings.

As I use it, "libido" is largely synonymous with terms like vitality, energy, life force, passion potential, etc. Average all those together, and we have the basic idea.

Perhaps it is best to think of it as an energy potential, energy that remains potential until it is expressed.

I think the default expression is physiological, sexual - but even if we consider that the default expression, that doesn't mean it has a monopoly of such energy potential. It can also be expressed through violence, poesis/poetry, athletics, animalistic screaming, etc.

Are all of these expressions social?

Sexual is social, sexual is physiological. Not all social expression of libido is sexual (heated arguments), not all sexual expression of libido is social (masturbation), and not all physiological expression is sexual (kinetic violence)

Depending on how we set the parameters for "physiological", perhaps we can conclude that not all social expression is physiological (think digital communication - would you consider that physiological? At what point do the parameters of "physiological" become so broad as to be useless?)

Poesis/poetry (as artistic creation most broadly) is a social expression of libido in so far as poetry necessarily presupposes a reader, thus making the poetic act a roundabout social one. If one is able to create without presupposing a reader/viewer, if one is able to transmit without expecting to be received, what do we make of that?

Or if one's social instincts can be calibrated beyond other humans, beyond even other organisms, deterritorializing the socios such that one is effectively addressing the cosmos as a body without organs - can that let one reach heights inaccessible to the conventional social expression?

In that sense, it may as well be called the postsocial libido. Which would necessarily be a postsexual libido, no? As I've said, wanking doesn;t cut it. It equates to the expenditure of only a fraction of the budget available.

Also the thread now officially allocated for Wank Theory. Two birds with one stone.

But the major point is that libido, as passion/energy potential, is not necessarily reducible to sexual expression, social or otherwise.

 

[constant escape]

If we think about this from a position of evolutionary biology and physiological function and necessity, libido becomes something of a spandrel once artificial (which is to say nature-via-human-willed, rather than merely nature-willed, so to speak) means of reproduction become viable. Do we have any such means that would render the libido spandrelesque? Have we been able to fabricate sperms or eggs without the sexual participation of a human subject?

 

[luka]

No one, or almost no one thinks it's reducible to sexual expression.

 

[constant escape]

Is the abstract expression of libido guided by fantasy? The internal and simulated promise of reward, allowing the build up of such energies?

Does the so-called "reality principle" refer to the perceived shared reality that must be reckoned with in order to achieve fulfillment? If not for such a constraint, the subject would be coerced into reckoning with some supposedly accurate reality, and would be left to drift through their own reality, which I gather is what psychosis refers to. Of course, as far as I can tell, there can be neurochemical predispositions that preclude any such reckoning with the supposedly accurate reality, the shared reality.

 

[constant escape]

No one, or almost no one thinks it's reducible to sexual expression.

I'm glad we tend to agree on that, but indulge the thoroughness. There is something to be said for it, no?

 

[luka]

If it makes you happy.

 

[luka]

What does the abstract expression of libido mean?

 

[WashYourHands]

Fucking inflatable dolls, no?

 

[WashYourHands]

Dolls.

With holes.

You look at it, this abstracted partner, lubed, compliant, complicit and you fuck it to death, cuz, hey, they’re replaceable.

 

[constant escape]

Dolls.

With holes.

You look at it, this abstracted partner, lubed, compliant, complicit and you fuck it to death, cuz, hey, they’re replaceable.

Yeah true, so theres an example of physiological and sexual expression that isn;t social. Although, from a sensory-organism's perspective, if it prompts the right reactions it might as well be it, no? I mean obviously its not social in reality, but think about how those phantom limb experiments prompted sensations that were disconnected from reality, yet largely if not entirely indistinguishable from sensations that were connected to reality.

 

[constant escape]

What does the abstract expression of libido mean?

I mean it as opposed to kinetic, bodily, concrete, apparent/phenomenal expression. To a large extent, if it can;t be empirically observed, its abstract. I;m sure we can think of exceptions though.

 

[constant escape]

Like poetry. Or other expressions that aren;t physiologically empirical, that do not have a phenomenology. Although strictly speaking we can have a phenomenology of something like poetry, I'd imagine. Maybe certain brain scanning techniques.

 

[luka]

What you're talking about, presumably, are moon shots. Build pressure to create force at the point of release. Gush!

 

[luka]

Well, maybe not just moon shots

 

[constant escape]

Think about how the average person would interpret the libidinal swelling of certain vanguard poetic types. It likely wouldn;t make any sense, from a perspective that looks only for physiological expression of libido.

 

[luka]

But generally speaking a way to operate at a higher pitch. Basically a system of libido management that allows for superhuman functioning

 

[luka]

sublimation.

 

[constant escape]

But generally speaking a way to operate at a higher pitch. Basically a system of libido management that allows for superhuman functioning

Yeah this is, in large part, the project at hand. Figuring this out would enable other projects of higher magnitudes, seeing as we are limited by how much effort we can put into things.

 

[sufi]

I voted Leave but now I have 10,000 Sex Arses stuck at Calais

 

[luka]

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Semen retention.

Another point for the would-be avant-garde and incel overlap, no? A culture that has managed to stitch into its dogma involuntary celibacy? Man, hopefully we'll live long enough for some future anthropologists to have a field day with the incel.

Full disclosure, as much as I can relate to them (minus any penchant for misogyny or terrorism), they still greatly frighten me - perhaps because of the portion of my potential-tree that leads me, or would have led me, down those roads. Related to my fear/reluctance of memes.

I can't say I have a troubled mind, as the end of the day. At least not at all compared to how troubled minds can get.

How can you "retain the semen" for long enough to establish a forceful enough current, without managing to damage the channels that house/guide it? Forceful enough for what? To express the cosmic?






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The mechanism is the same. It's not a metaphor exactly. It's a homology. It's libidinal energy etc. It's the Exquisite Science.




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