Random book quotes

DLaurent

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Just a few that either make me chuckle or stuck out to me when reading.

John Le Carre - The Pigeon Tunnel.

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Rudyard Kipling - The Man Who Would Be King

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From a Salinger Short Story - I forget which

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Phillip. Roth - Portnoy's Complaint

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Murakami - Men Without Women

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EL Doctorow - Andrew's Brain

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John Kennedy Toole - A Confederacy of Dunces

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Kipling - On Greenhow Hill

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Graham Greene - The Third Man

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Raymond Chandler - The Lady In The Lake

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From a Raymond Carver story - I forget which
 

DLaurent

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From a Raymond Carver story I forget which

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Walter Lipmann - Preface to Politics

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Dosteovsky - Notes From the Undergrounnd

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DLaurent

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I'll have a read. I had a great one from Burroughs about an anatomy scanning machine but can't find it.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
But doesn't he say that she was named after some sex-act that he doesn't elaborate on? I couldn't work out if it was supposed to be something obvious that I was too innocent and naive to grasp or if it was just entirely a meaningless thing to get you wondering in that direction.
 

DLaurent

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I've had this book Betty Blue for a while now and not had the motivation to read it. I bought it when I was on my daily two hour release from the Psychiatric Ward. At the rate I'm going I'll have read it all today. Not much happens. It's not a deep story. Most of what they do is laze around, drink, smoke and make love. The guy who sold it to me from Stafford market told me it was good and he'd had girlfriends like that.

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I also recently read James Comey's book, A Higher Loyalty. I was more interested in that sort of stuff for a while. How the Mafia operates. But a lot of it is stuff like this, Comey talking about leadership.

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sus

Moderator
“The Hassidim tell a story about the world to come that says everything there will be just as it is here. [...] Everything will be as it is now, just a little different.”
 

sufi

lala
I found this 1000 page pdf of this woman's life on archive.org - documents and letters starting from 1905, she was born in vienna, converted from judaism to xtianity, had to flee anyway (she met Heidegger, hated him and he probably denounced her to the nazis), she ended up as a new yorker.

this bit i found really speaks to me, her own account of "Memories of our home at the beginning of the 20th Century." it's OCRed so forgive typos

Take it away Dr. Edith Neumann

1612625377977.pngMemories of our home at the beginning of the 20th Century.


To keep up our fairly small apartment and the family (2 adults, 2 children), 2 indoor
servants, cook and parlormaid who was also nanny, 1 helper (Bedienerin) three times a
week, for several hours (outside), 1 washerwoman once a month over a long day, and a
sewing woman in spring and fall every year for about two weeks each, were necessary.



The servants had low wages but they were quite satisfied and saved most of their money at
the bank (Postsparkasse). Many of them stayed for many years. At Christmas, they got
material for a new outfit; when they feil sick, the doctor came to look after them, and when
one of them got pregnant - which they managed though they were off (Ausgang) only every
other Sunday afternoon - my father saw to it that the responsible man (Verehrer) married
her.

A middle class American housewife would not understand why so many people, including
my mother, were necessary to keep up the household. It is best explained by enumerating
that which was not there. As there are few poeple left who still remember, I will set down
the facts. Thus the following will not be so much my biography but a description of
everyday life before 1914.

Most historians deal with war, politics, and economics, but very few of them had ever
known what to do with a dirty tablecloth or a worn out shirt cufT.



No indoor water. There was an outside tap shared with the neighbours next door.
In my parents* bed room was a large dresser of black marble. On it stood two large basins
of embossed procelaine painted with pink roses. To the set also belonged a pitcher to refiU
the basins, a pail for the dirty water, and on a narrow shelf two cups for water, a narrow
long Container for the toothbrushes and a Container for the toothpowder (no toothpaste
yet!) and, last but not least, the Chamber pots - everything with roses. We children had a
less elaborate set of hardier porcelaine with a blue pattern.

On a low bench (Wasserbankl) in the kitchen stood two large pails each with its own ladle,
one for working purposes and one for cleaning. Drinking water at meals had to be fresh
from the tap.

Above the tollet seat was a contraption which let some water down every time a cord was
puUed. It had to be refiUed several times a day.

I was still very young when my father made some very important improvements. He took
some part of the foyer and made a bathroom out of it with. A tall stove heated by gas gave



enough warm water for several baths in succession, and a pilot light delivered some warm
water during the day (if one was careful). Father also had a W.C. (Wasserklosett) installed.



No Electricitv. The rooms were lit with gas (Auerbach Struempfe) which were of a very
fragile material (asbestos?) and had to be replaced quite often. My parents had candles on
their tight tables. After a time, the most important chandeliers were electrified for their
middle lamps and electric lamps were put on the bedside tables (Nachtkastln).

No vacuum cleaners. Everything was done by broom and brush except that every now and
then the oriental rugs were taken to the court yard. There stood a long level wooden pole
held high up on both sides by vertical legs of the same material. The rugs, one after the
other, were thrown over it Usually two people worked it on both sides and beat the dust out
of it with a flat Instrument made of young bendable sprigs which were plaited in a pretty,
very loose pattem, got a handle and were dried to harden (Pracker). This was very good for
the rugs (probably better than the strong vacuum cleaners) but very bad for the girls in a
city füll of tuberculosis. Fortunately, they did not contract this desease.

Do detergents except fine, mostly French soaps for the employers (Herrschaft) and a hard
brown soap (Schichtenseife) for everybody and everything eise.

NoSOS or similar cleaners. Every month a man with a cart (Der Sandmann) brought sand
from the Danube to fill an old pot He also delivered several bunches of dried algae (called
Waschein).

No floor polisher. The floors were hardwood parquettry in a fishgrate pattern and were
polished by woman power. It was done with flat oblong brushes with very short, hard
bristles which were larger than a human foot and had their upper surface covered with a
black bumpy material (Linoleum). The worker stood barefood on one and steadied herseif
with a broom under which was a dustcloth. So she danced up and down each row of
diagonal wood Strips wiping after herseif with the dust cloth. My mother who was grace
personifled could do it with brushes under both feet. She encouraged us girls to do it often,
saying it made beautiful hips.

No washing machine. No drver. Washday was an event which everybody hated. In the
basement was the room for it (Waschkueche). In it were two long vats with tilted sides and a
plug to let the dirty water out into the drain (Waschtrog). The afternoon before, the
servants fiUed them with water and some lye, put the loundry/washing in and let it soak
until the morning. Early next morning the washerwoman (Waschfrau) came and started the
Are in the stove for heating the water in two large vals. In the meantime, she rinsed the
washing in fresh, cold water, put it back into the vals, poured hot water onto it and then the
work Started in earnest. She had a washboard (Kumpel). On it she soaped and rubbed
every piece of loundry, e.g. a sheet from one end to the other, not leaving out a spot Then
the whole thing was slightly rinsed, put into the vals on the stove with enough slivers of soap
and let it boil for some time. After that the loundry was again treated on the washboard
(gerumpelt!) and then rinsed in cold water. Usually, the parlormaid helped at that
procedure. After wringing out as much water as possible, the wet linen was taken in an
oblong basket with two handles (Waschkorb) to the attic and hung there to dry. This



needed 2 persons for the wet load was very heavy. It was taken down while still slightly
damp, the sheets were stretched by two people holding them on both sides. When I was
older I was one of them and found that puUing much fun. Then all flat-ware was taken to
the neighbouring milkshop (Milchfrau) where there was a big mangle to hire by the hour.
At one time most of the material was starched (I do not know when).

One of the extra task was supplying the washerwoman with food. Every two hours she got
a substantial meal accompanied by a bottle of beer. This had to be brought to her to the
badly lit basement on a tray. When I was older, it was occasionally my duty, and I hated it
(because of the roaches).

At last came the ironing. This was a dangerous procedure. The untensil had about the same
form as a modern iron but it was hoUow. It had a flap at the back to close. The heat was
delivered by a piece of cast iron (slightly smaller) with a hole on one end. It was put into the
hot coals in the stove and left there until it was glowing red. Then it was taken out by a long
hook (Schuerhaken) and fitted into the hoUow outer form. This procedure could easily
cause injuries. The iron was, of course, terribly hot and one had to take great care not to
burn the linen. But it cooled gradually and the ironer knew which pieces to take according
to the temperature. When it was too cold, the inside iron was taken out, replaced by a
second hot one from the stove and the cold one put again into the stove.

Np Nylpn. No synthetic material like Nylon, Acetate, existed at that time, therefore NO drip
dry, NO colorfast materials. Therefore, all delicate material had to be washed by band
separately by the parlormaid, hung to dry under the ceiling in the kitchen and very
carefuUy ironed.

The Kitchgn. NO canned or frozen food, except French Sardines in olive oil and small
Italien tins with tomatoe paste.

NO Mixer. NO Blender. NO Cuisinar. Everything was woman power. All flat surfaces,
mcluding the large board (Nudelbrett) on which all dough for noodles and any dessert that
was kneaded and flattened to desired thinness with a roUer (Nudelwalker) were of a
beautiful pale, hardgrained wood (maple?). All other wooden implements were of the same
material. Every Saturday, they had to be rubbed clean with sand and soap. The flat
surfaces were covered after the midday meal with table cloths embroidered in blue cross
stich by my sister and me).

As there was NO refrigeration. my mother went Shopping daily. Nothing was in cartons or
packaged in Standard weight (Kilogramm, Dekagramm). The groceries were put into paper
bags, the vegetables usually in newspaper and also the meat Only the butter got
parchment The vegetables, especially the root vegetables, needed thorough cleaning
because they came just as the farmer had brought them. Chicken had to have their left
over feathers bumed off and all the entrails had to be taken out very carefuUy in order not
to tear the gall-bladder. It would make the whole meat bitter. Everything purreed had to be
pressed throuhg a hair sieve (NO blender) and the famous Viennese tortes, e. g. Sachertorte,
had to be stirred - always in one direction - for half an hour. Heavy cream and egg white
was beaten in a half globe kettle of brass (Schneekessel) with a wire Instrument
(Schneerute).
 

sufi

lala
A fish was bought alive, put into a large vat of water and killed before cooking by hitting it
over the head with a meat-tenderizer (Fleischklopfer). (NO chemical tenderizer). This was a
club-like implement, too difiicult to describe, could be used as deadly weapon.
Everything had to be just so, and a midday meal of soup, meat with vegetable and potatoes
and usually heavy dessert (Mehlspeise) took three to four hours.

NO Dlastic Containers or Sarah papen (e.g, Glad^. Meals cooked beforehand for the
evening had to be stored in covered Containers, often glass, and the baked goods like
Strudeln or Buchteln (yeast cakes like Danish) were covered with a clean dishcloth to keep
flies away.

NO Toasten Did not matter. Nobody ate toast anyway.

NO cut bread, Brade came in round loaves and cutting thin, regulär slices was an art and
done at home.



And than came the cleaning up. NO SINK (Abwasch). Pots and paus were scrubbed with
sand and soaps. There were always two basins, one for the dirty dishes and one for rinsing.
The water had to be heated and changed several times. The dirty water was poured into a
pail and emptied into the toilet.

NO stainless Steel. T he knives and all other steel implements were badly discolorized by
food and dififerent acids. They had to be polished with something like an emery paper
(Schmirgelpapier) but it was black and much fine grained so it did not make skratches.
Nevertheless, the knives got thinner and thinner in the years of use, but they were very
Sharp.

When everything was nice and clean, white clothes embroidered in cross stich by my sister
and me were laid on every flat surface. Before the preparation of the evening meal they had
to be taken off again.

NO Central Heating. There were beautifully colored tile stoves in every room which were
heated with coal. The ashed has to be taken out daily and the fire made up fresh. Not every
room was heated daily. We were quite used to sleep in a cold bedroom in Winter if the
temperature was not too low.

NO Air Conditioner. NO electric fan, My mother had a Japanese paper fan for everyday.
When she went out, a more elegant one.

NO Elevator. When we moved into a larger apartment in 1916, there was the choice
between the first and fourth floor (European counting). Father chose the higher one: more
air, more light.

The Sewing Ladv. - NO electric sewing machine but one with a foot pedal which worked
very well if you used the pedal very regularly.

My mother^s wardrobe was done by a first class dressmaker in the Innere Stadt. Only her
home dresses were made at home. I still remember a beautiful pink one with a lace coUar.
All our things from inside out were done at home (Hausschneiderin). My mother always



bought the best material and a quite sufilcient length so that everything could last for
several years. The seams at the length and sides were very deep so that they could be let out
when we grew. Everything was made to measure. In Winter I got a new navy blue "sailor's
dress" (Matrosenkleid) with a pleated skirt and a white Square coUar at the back. I do not
remember any change in style over the years. In Spring, the dresses were much livelier in
color and pattem. For the two Summer months in Goisern (Salzkammergut), we always
had Dirndln with aprons. Sometimes, I got an old one from my sister for everyday use. I
still have hanging one in the back of my closet It is astonishing how carefuUy it was made,
outside and inside.



Much fun came from the making of new dresses out of old ones. They were taken apart
completely and the good pieces used and complemented out of the rag bad (Fetzenpinkel).
This was a big cloth bag containing all kinds of stuff from previous times, laces, belts, etc.
Cleverly put together, the dressmaker could make nice dresses out of it looking very
different and quite new.

My doUs got new dresses every year from the "Christkind". But I think they were made by
my mother.

NO Radio. NO Television. So much more time. There was always something to do. Nothing
was ever thrown away but mended. Socks and stockings were damed, loose seams resewn,
buttons replaced (NO Zippers), tears very carefuUy Hxed, sometimes with hair as thread,
warm socks and gloves were knitted and when the servants had nothing eise to do, they
worked for their own hope ehest

I do not remember when the staff was reduced to one indoor servant only (Maedchen fuer
alles) and the outside cleaning woman. I think soon after I could dress myself and did not
need any constant supervision any more and after the various improvements were
introduced (bathoroom with indoor water, a two-flame-gas burner in the kitchen, etc.) This
reduced the workload considerably. The fact that there were no autos on the rather steep
Fuchsthallergasse made it possible that I could walk alone for a few blocks out of the house.
 

DLaurent

Well-known member
That reminds me of when Werner Herzog was asked either about Heidegger or Hegel I think, and he replied "I haven't even read his biography" or something similar. Droll.
 

DLaurent

Well-known member
Love that film.

I just flicked through some Robert Walser stories but no quote stuck out to me. Same for Peer Gynt. I just skim read it looking for the quote that says something like "The woes of one kingdom are best solved in another" but think I imagined that.

I always liked the start of this libretto to Copland's The Tender Land and could imagine Lynch or someone directing it.

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sus

Moderator
@sufi Yeah I'm pretty frickin glad to be alive rn. One or two generations earlier, no Net. Four or five generations earlier, that hellscape of manual labor.
 

sus

Moderator
Pretty nuts. A million years of biologically modern human beings. That's 50,000 generations. All but 5 are just total shit. Granted, half the world still lives like that, so all of us were geographically lucky too.
 

sufi

lala
@sufi Yeah I'm pretty frickin glad to be alive rn. One or two generations earlier, no Net. Four or five generations earlier, that hellscape of manual labor.
i dunno, life without electronics sounds pretty ok to me these days
it feels wrong that we have forgotten how to do without all this crap
 
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