other_life
bioconfused
they're not is the thing!
jk. would apply to normal people but not the weirdos here.most of the main users here like luka are well into their 60s though. too old to get it... or maybe not?
what makes it sound submerged is the murky muffled quality sound moving through a thicker heavier more resistant medium than air. Again the characteristic sense of someone communicating with you from a very long way away, not in terms of physical distance but from an emotional and psychic dimension which touches our own only tangentially. The same sense of having drifted off into unmoored space you hear in chief keef, self contained solicipsm space pods, watching the stars dissolve from inside the cocoon-ship. Floating away.
It's not somewhere I want to go. It doesn't seduce me. It's not a siren song for me. I don't want to drift away and lose contact with the Earth.
i think it's a mistake to compare this music to electroacoustic, besides a few releases. and i would know, i've been doing exactly that for two years...For me it's more that i don't understand that continuum, in a literal sense. the roadmap hasn't been revealed to me, and a lot of that has to do with lack of trying granted, but i can't shake the feeling ive heard all this stuff in electroacoustic before hand. Given i got into electroacoustic through hardcore (everything from the harder darker stuff to sample crazy chipmunkadelic bizniz) and free jazz, knowledge itself probably becomes a double edged sword for me. For instance if i got into electroacoustic through James ferraroah or Clams Casino i would be able to interface with this stuff more. As much as it is 'internet culture' i can't really think of many vapourwave heads in the UK, compared to US where it genuinely seems to be a subculture of sorts.
...if anything, maybe it's a testament to the music's imaginative sprawl/lack of boundaries that it even spilled into the edges of that esoteric territory without trying.vaporwave in its prime had this quality in a way that was decidedly not forceful or militant or even avant-garde. it was an outgrowth of chillwave and it is undoubtedly pop music and -about engaging with- pop music
naked in your Travelodge room, a huge weight lifted from your shoulders, no identity, no history, no self.
Do you physically feel this? In the chest, in the groin? The pangs and twinges and yearnings to be nobody and nowhere
Part of the allure in the empty or digitally rendered place is the simplicity, the reduction, the lack of complexity that comes with being entangled with other people, power dynamics etc
as children, projecting ourselves into these spaces which are real, but can never be accessed. railway sidings too.
most of the main users here like luka are well into their 60s though. too old to get it... or maybe not?
every generation has this kind of micro-question with regards to music. @other_life i'm really glad that you feel so strongly about these things - that it is possible to be so impassioned about them.you people can admit this kind of hyperbole for dubstep or its antecedents because it was formative for you (which i can respect) but not for chillwave and vaporwave. why?