Love Is Blind
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Corpsey
bandz ahoy
Good pick here cos the beat sounds absolutely moronic.
woops
is not like other people
luka
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he was his secretary wasnt he. he wrote a thing book afterwards. trying to look outward at the world of things. im not hugely impressed with it but then again i dont read german. i also try to look at the thing-world periodically and it doesnt come naturally for me either
sus
Moderator
I'm glad I've got you thinking in game terms Linebaugh
This show looks great
Actually speaking of games, @Clinamenic have you read Mackenzie Wark's Game Theory? That question goes out to everybody ofc, but if anyone has read a Verso author I'm putting my money on Stan
This show looks great
Actually speaking of games, @Clinamenic have you read Mackenzie Wark's Game Theory? That question goes out to everybody ofc, but if anyone has read a Verso author I'm putting my money on Stan
sus
Moderator
One thing that really affects the games on this show—but which exists out of the show proper—is the self-selection and selection rounds which determine the participants. Two really basic, obvious effects: (1) Everyone in these trailers is at least moderately attractive. (2) There are people who get on these shows to get on television, not to find love, and that causes big problems for the contestants who are actually in it for love.
sus
Moderator
You also have selection effects like you get with dating apps. The concentration of serial daters, people who are bad at relationships, perpetually single, etc on Tinder is much higher than in the general population—because the people who are in long-term monogamous relationships have all been pulled out, or avoid Tinder in the first place for its hookup reputation. Also, some high-value dating pool participants may choose to avoid these apps because they don't need them.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Have not read that, but I have heard her speak of such things in the talks and seminars she gives.
She worked with some artist and made this interactive story about the situationists, although nothing really game-like from what I remember.
And she had, or perhaps still has, her own post-capitalist paradigm she was analyzing things through, where the proletariat was replaced by the hacker class, and the capitalist class was replaced by the "vectoralist class" who remotely harvest the data of the hackers, or something to that effect.
What does she say about games?
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Interesting, and yeah I would say there is some allegorical truth to these things that may not have even been intended by the developers.
sus
Moderator
I think that we make these judgments/categorizations, on initial impressions, that anchor later judgments and are what, in a sense, allow for redemptions.
Mind you, much of this arc can be accomplished through editing and production—it can be artificial, a product of the show rather than of how we interpret one another—but I also think that once you've dismissed all the contestants as superficial morons, it becomes easier to be surprised and even impressed by their moments of candor, intelligence, or depth.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
I can directly testify to that. May have mentioned I was a production assistant on a couple reality shows. They have story departments.
sus
Moderator
+1 for the "external attractiveness is 70% a proxy for psychological qualities" hypothesis
I've never been especially convinced, but smart people I respect who have willed themselves to solid 7.5+/10-dom have advocated this stance.