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Nature is a racist concept
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Revolt against the modern world. Return to Nature. Private blogger Artist Crafter Youtube Channel:
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In many public statements, conferences and interviews, you have declared that nature is a racist concept. Can you explain this idea? In reality it is simple! Nature, as I have already said, should be different from culture or society or that which is human. This clear distinction is biologically incorrect. Obviously, we have evolved from other forms of life and we are ecologically connected with them. What does this difference explain? The demarcation line between “us” and “them” is known, in robot design, as uncanny valley. Robots which seem human appear stranger and more disturbing as they approach similarity with our own image. This valley includes beings which racists call subhuman, inhuman, those who are treated worse that what we call animals - considering how the Nazi party supported animal rights and how much Hitler loved his dog Blondi. This is perfectly in line with Nazism. Dogs are natural, the humans in the uncanny valley are not. Nature is a racist concept.
Timothy Morton, the interview: “Nature is a racist concept”
The English philosopher Timothy Morton speaks of his vision of the future, the concept of hyperobjects and the implications of the project on the universe.www.domusweb.it
Indeed. and with that false leap of logic the speculative realist ends up entrenching race. the problem is not that Hitler loved his dog, the problem is that the nazis believed that Jews (and the steppe peoples, so that by nature includes us old asian barbarians) could only treat animals and the natural environment commercially and part as monetary transaction. I quoted Ishay Wanda's book on here a couple of times and you should read it, and behave yourself!
What trendiness does to an mf.
Mr. Tea
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Not sure about the ancient steppe peoples - that would include the Proto-Indo-Europeans, i.e. 'Aryans' or Ur-Germans as far as the Nazis were concerned. The Nazis weren't really bothered about Asian people, and went as far as to categorize the Japanese as "honorary Aryans", plus they fetishized Hinduism, Tibet, etc.
In fact the Nazis in general were pretty keen on barbarians, as long as they were the right sort of barbarians. The Jews were constructed as being civilized (in the worst possible way), urban, etc. - the very opposite of healthy, vigorous, nature-attuned barbarians.
I somewhat disagree. The Japanese were comparitively civilised post-meiji restoration and had little in common with the slavic steppe peoples (who today are considered European, but at that time had more in common with Asians.) It was Japan at that time which was much more European — We have to remember that Europe and Asia as ideas are constructs. There is a danger of imputing too much coherency to nazi ideology.
I take your point about hinduism and buddhism, but even that was done from the vantage point of a Euro-supremacist gaze, something historical and etymological/philological rather than any great interest in the Indian subcontinent and its inhabitants.
Mr. Tea
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Never too late to start.
Mr. Tea
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Wonder if there will be a resurgence of that ideology, now that there's renewed support for the 'Altaic' language family (except they're calling it the Transeurasian family now) - including Japonic and Turkic, among others - from archaeology and genetics:
Triangulation supports agricultural spread of the Transeurasian languages - Nature
A ‘triangulation’ approach combining linguistics, archaeology and genetics suggests that the origin and spread of Transeurasian family of languages can be traced back to early millet farmers in Neolithic North East Asia.
www.nature.com
luka
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Wonder if there will be a resurgence of that ideology, now that there's renewed support for the 'Altaic' language family (except they're calling it the Transeurasian family now) - including Japonic and Turkic, among others - from archaeology and genetics:
Triangulation supports agricultural spread of the Transeurasian languages - Nature
A ‘triangulation’ approach combining linguistics, archaeology and genetics suggests that the origin and spread of Transeurasian family of languages can be traced back to early millet farmers in Neolithic North East Asia.
Search results for query: Altaic
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This intrigued me the other day re: the Nazis;
"The Third Reich is remarkable as an advanced nation administering genocide. A lesser historian would have made a book about the genocide by studying the victims. But look at this index. Grunberger knew that if you are engaging the Holocaust, you study the sociality of the Aryans.
If you are serious about addressing racism in the United States, you don't need Black hero stories, you need to do a deep dive into the cultural and sociopathology of the Whites.
A book about the Holocaust only needs one little chapter at the end about the Jews because the story is the cultural formation, churches, music, literature, conceptions of justice, gender, and civil service normalized among the Aryans."
"The Third Reich is remarkable as an advanced nation administering genocide. A lesser historian would have made a book about the genocide by studying the victims. But look at this index. Grunberger knew that if you are engaging the Holocaust, you study the sociality of the Aryans.
If you are serious about addressing racism in the United States, you don't need Black hero stories, you need to do a deep dive into the cultural and sociopathology of the Whites.
A book about the Holocaust only needs one little chapter at the end about the Jews because the story is the cultural formation, churches, music, literature, conceptions of justice, gender, and civil service normalized among the Aryans."