yeah, obsessive collecting pre-dated the popularisation of the internet, the whole rare soul scene, reggae collectors etc. All that's happened now is it's trickled down to people without loadsamoney. Surely that's a positive development when viewed like that.
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yeah, obsessive collecting pre-dated the popularisation of the internet, the whole rare soul scene, reggae collectors etc. All that's happened now is it's trickled down to people without loadsamoney. Surely that's a positive development when viewed like that.
all experience is lived, so this is a meaningless turn of phrase, imo. Make sure you aren't infected with Lucius' reactionary tendancies.
what youre really lamenting is that there is no informed way to talk about music anymore because the rockist project was unable to adapt to the times and the poptimist project became a victim of its own success - as it was a concerted attempt to kill off the fanatic in music.
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a Trot with a revolutionary zeal if you follow the Dialectic of Hitchens (Peter).
Fixed. And yes, I do. However English Marxism is the most mediocre of mediocre marxisms.
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he is the Baron of Barry. he is the Anglo that does the oppressing.
What I think is interesting about it, and what Luke is in a way reacting to, is the wrenching it out of original context and repurposing. In some ways making it better, certainly giving it wider reach, reviving the careers of forgotten artists. I wonder how Luka's cache of tunes will be repurposed. Perhaps he'll lend his name to a compilation and spend his dotage being feted in Japan by adoring oaktu.
Luke doesn't have the discipline to be a curator or dj. I mean, thats why its so worthwhile arguing with him, because he is able to project this sense of being above the mass industrial complex of the radio/tv/youtube, when really he's no different to Tracey down at the pub. So what you get is not poptimism but a kind of unsupported hard ideological grafting. He's zealous in his own ways. Whereas with me there are much more clearly delineated aesthetic commitments.
As for wrenching out of original context, I think hardcore even more than hip hop was the first music to do that.
“Two, Three, Many Thirdforms”
See I think that was always the case in the 70s-80s. All those Japanese reference books on rare groove, German funk diggers in a country at the time which had very little proximity to black culture, all that eastern European disco @bunnyhausen plays, Italian reggae heads, the list goes on and on. It was just something we could conveniently ignore because of the way that English language music is orientated to be the world default.