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I used to love the bug as well but then I suddenly went off him after seeing a terrible live show he did with daddy freddy. For a while though, wow. I think I first read dissensus following links from John Edens bug blog.
 
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catalog said:
I used to love the bug as well but then I suddenly went off him after seeing a terrible live show he did with daddy freddy. For a while though, wow. I think I first read dissensus following links from John Edens bug blog.
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Don't wanna derail this thread but the Bug was better when he was just the producer Kevin Martin helping to engineer weirdo free jazz noise rock hardcore records like this.

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yeah right. my way into hiphop was actually a couple of specific things. it was a couple of mixes on FACT that rocked my world, and recording an hour or so of Hot 97 on a bus trip from philly to DC, which had Fucking Problems on. all of that stuff was immediately accessible, had all kinds of ideas in the lyrics, wasn't boring to me, sounded new, and so on. i think just before that, another formative experience in that respect was cruising around Dhaka late at night, which is an apocalyptic city, with a local proper elite guy, with one of the Drake albums on and going to hang out on some new bridge.

won't go back through my whole musical history, though to be fair that actually would be quite an interesting thing to do, but grime was my way in really. it was rocking my world from about 2008 to 2012, i had all the classics to go through and bits and pieces of good stuff was still coming out. obviously after the experience of grime the idea that rapping was boring lyrically or sonically just doesn't stand up so was much more open to hiphop after that. it's not the same as post-2010 hiphop sonicallly obviously, but i think they share the newness aspect. and i found in that hiphop the same lyrical thing as i found in grime, which is that people were going on about things and emotions that i found relevant and could relate to, that no other medium was really getting at or dealing with.

so as of 2013 i guess i was listening to a lot of grime, some 90s indie, a lot of dinosaur jr actually from what i can remember, was into that king midas sound album that came out around then too. actually was still into a lot of that hyperdub stuff around then that was on the margins of dubstep. the bug was a big deal for me.

weirdly the other thing that i got into, at exactly the same time as hiphop, was slowcore, which is a totally different set of emotions.
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here's the FACT mixes, which i still dig out every couple of years. i don't agree that i'm a dummy but apparently that's a condition of listened to these.



 
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thirdform said:
Don't wanna derail this thread but the Bug was better when he was just the producer Kevin Martin helping to engineer weirdo free jazz noise rock hardcore records like this.

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Those early razor x's he did with rootsman and warrior queen were amazing
 
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shakahislop said:
yeah right. my way into hiphop was actually a couple of specific things. it was a couple of mixes on FACT that rocked my world, and recording an hour or so of Hot 97 on a bus trip from philly to DC, which had Fucking Problems on. all of that stuff was immediately accessible, had all kinds of ideas in the lyrics, wasn't boring to me, sounded new, and so on. i think just before that, another formative experience in that respect was cruising around Dhaka late at night, which is an apocalyptic city, with a local proper elite guy, with one of the Drake albums on and going to hang out on some new bridge.

won't go back through my whole musical history, though to be fair that actually would be quite an interesting thing to do, but grime was my way in really. it was rocking my world from about 2008 to 2012, i had all the classics to go through and bits and pieces of good stuff was still coming out. obviously after the experience of grime the idea that rapping was boring lyrically or sonically just doesn't stand up so was much more open to hiphop after that. it's not the same as post-2010 hiphop sonicallly obviously, but i think they share the newness aspect. and i found in that hiphop the same lyrical thing as i found in grime, which is that people were going on about things and emotions that i found relevant and could relate to, that no other medium was really getting at or dealing with.

so as of 2013 i guess i was listening to a lot of grime, some 90s indie, a lot of dinosaur jr actually from what i can remember, was into that king midas sound album that came out around then too. actually was still into a lot of that hyperdub stuff around then that was on the margins of dubstep. the bug was a big deal for me.

weirdly the other thing that i got into, at exactly the same time as hiphop, was slowcore, which is a totally different set of emotions.
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this is fascinating for a number of reasons 1) being 2008 to 2012 with some really great exceptions kinda remembered as not particularly great years in grimes existence also i understand where you're coming from with the newness but all it makes me thing of is how i went back to articles certain music writers wrote about grime back in 03-04 about how it was so much more vital and exciting than whatever was happening in rap at the time and how we still have to bare the resentment and brunt of what those guys did ever since (i saw somebody saying thank god Americans stole drill beats from the UK today funny enough) newness and novelty is always kinda overstated and thats how sometimes you get rappers hailed as future thinking but it's more down to the beats they rap over rather than what they do on the mic *cough cough JPEGMAFIA*

Fuckin Problems then and now i still think that song is pretty mid tbh, never really liked Asap Rocky and man i know people joke about like neuveo riche guys in Dubai all being really into Drake but you was really living the movie there

also oh great...another slowcore guy
 
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i'm still a big fan and have been from roughly the Razor X period onwards. the king midas sound thing from last year i really rate. but listening back i must have been in a pretty bad place, because that thing is incredibly bleak.

 
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but it's more down to the beats they rap over rather than what they do on the mic *cough cough JPEGMAFIA*
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That's what I like about this record, it has really out there beats, Birds with No Wings, but it's also got a lot of things going on in the raps. Best of both worlds. I actually don't find jpegmafias beats all that interesting, they're just a bit glitchy lol, which listening to a lot of german glitch from the early 00s it's like I'd rather weird tonalities, incongruous film music samples, etc.
 
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shakahislop said:
here's the FACT mixes, which i still dig out every couple of years. i don't agree that i'm a dummy but apparently that's a condition of listened to these.



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these mixes are such a time capsule of what was going on in certain segments of rap at that time, even then there's still a bunch of stuff they missed out on from 2013 alone
 
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woops said:
You should do 100 tunes @shakahislop I'll start the thread for you it you want.
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is that what that is? i thought it was just 100 tunes that you like. probably the description is the more interesting part, the trajectory of taste with one thing leading to another, never heard that many people talk about that
 
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its a genre of pornography that exclusively uses those slowmo cameras you get on new iphones, or the ones that they use for tennis on tv
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sad white boy indie rock plodding tempos (hence the name) very spare, was once the genre du joure on Rateyourmusic

Codiene,Low and all that jazz lemme guess shaka you probably went through a phase where you was really into Duster and Bedhead weren't you?
 
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