Le Epic Choons

[luka]

I could look like Craner

 

[line b]

It can look better, but it often looks unreal. It isn't "nice hair", it's "nice hair transplant".

Im not sure, I think most male actors get plugs at some point and you can only tell until you look at pictures from early in their career

 

[version]

The other thing with the hair stuff is you have to take all those drugs that mess with your hormones and can give you permanent erectile dysfunction, gynecomastia etc and there's no guarantee your hair will even stop going.

 

[line b]

I could look like Craner

goals

 

[sus]

There's a woman called Lorry Hill who runs a YouTube channel explaining the surgeries she thinks various celebrities have had done. It's pretty interesting. I think it's much more common in Hollywood and the music industry than people think.

I get a little nauseous watching this video, the descriptions of chin reductions and plate implants, stitched foreheads. I can feel it on my face.

Also, I think one of the reasons plastic surgery ends up looking bad is the celebrities get carried away. They don't know when to stop. They keep meddling. Thicker lips. Better chin

 

[line b]

The other thing with the hair stuff is you have to take all those drugs that mess with your hormones and can give you permanent erectile dysfunction, gynecomastia etc and there's no guarantee your hair will even stop going.

Ive heard propecia is pretty effective in stopping hair loss in most cases, but at best it lowers your sex drive and at worst it ruins your dick forever. no thank you

 

[luka]

I think the reason is maybe that the celebrities lose their handlers cos they're not famous enough any more and then make their own stupid decisions

 

[version]

Also, I think one of the reasons plastic surgery ends up looking bad is the celebrities get carried away. They don't know when to stop. They keep meddling. Thicker lips. Better chin

Fashion changes too.

 

[luka]

All this weird shit

How we are tweaked and pinched and pulled and shaped by the responses we receive and by the responses we anticipate receiving. Locked into these teaching machines, something within us very, very alert to praise and scolding

eg You really get the sense of the 'culture' pulling people's bodies and faces into new shapes. Gym. High protein diet calorific surplus. Creatine.
fashion increasingly becoming as much about the body as about the clothes we wear



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[version]

Also, I think one of the reasons plastic surgery ends up looking bad is the celebrities get carried away. They don't know when to stop. They keep meddling. Thicker lips. Better chin

That and it might not be your physical imperfections which are really what's bothering you, so you just keep chipping away hoping the next face lift will be the one that scratches the itch.

 

[luka]

I worked in a rich area of Sydney for a few years and saw loads of Greek, Lebanese and Jewish girls get their faces changed to look more Anglo pretty

 

[luka]

but then superficial as I am I did sort of think they looked better after although it was a weird feeling. A chosen face. How do you process that?

 

[Clinamenic]

I could look like Craner

Wouldn't that require ripping your flesh off, rather than pumping more flesh in?

 

[version]

The photos of people with terrible surgery are interesting because they clearly look bizarre and you wonder whether they know and regret it or genuinely think it's an improvement. It's also interesting to flip that and consider your own flaws and whether the things you fixate on in yourself really register as such to anyone else.

 

[luka]

You can't really allow yourself to be attracted to a face you know is chosen can you? If you know that is

 

[version]

I worked in a rich area of Sydney for a few years and saw loads of Greek, Lebanese and Jewish girls get their faces changed to look more Anglo pretty

There's that toe curling scene in V. where Pynchon goes into painstaking detail describing a Jewish woman's nose job.

 

[Clinamenic]

The photos of people with terrible surgery are interesting because they clearly look bizarre and you wonder whether they know and regret it or genuinely think it's an improvement. It's also interesting to flip that and consider your own flaws and whether the things you fixate on in yourself really register as such to anyone else.

Yeah I share this curiosity, and I usually assume their judgement has been irremediably compromised by the pressures of celebrity, leaving them in an aloof free-fall of self-unawareness.

 

[version]

There's been a massive increase in men getting cosmetic surgery. All those incel groups obsessed with jawlines, wrist sizes, eye shape and so on.

 

[luka]

There's been a massive increase in men getting cosmetic surgery. There's all those incel groups who are obsessed with their jawlines, wrist sizes, eye shape and so on.

@suspended

 

[luka]

I love all that mental canthal tilt shit. You look at it and go, you've got a good point, good observation