Clinamatic's venture to the rap dungeon

shakahislop

shakahislop

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WebEschatology said:
i mean if it's trashy you like and you want to listen to i'd reccomend listening to Fat Trel, great rapper but man he's such a glutton

not only that but he's done tracks with the son of Tommy Hillfiger
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that seems appropriate with a name like that. i'll have a listen. liked the 25 lighters one you posted just now, didn't realize that that kendrick tune was referring to that
 
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Clinamenic said:
I enjoyed the second one more, but yeah I can start to glean how maybe regional differences can be palpable in hip hop than in other genres. Could be wrong, but I don't think of rock and other genres as emphasizing lifestyle so heavily.
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yep rap as far as the states is based around a couple of major cities: NY, LA,ATL those have historically been the 3 important ones but you've also got Chicago,Detroit,the Bay Area, Texas,Memphis

regionalisms always been a big defining feature in one way or another, how it defines sounds and also what they borrow adapt and replicate from these places aswell

@Clinamenic there's different schools of composition style when it comes to classical but nothing akin to this
 
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thirdform

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Clinamenic said:
Listening to the second one, I consider just how relatively lacking in rhythm much of classical music is, and how rhythm (qua beats) as a musical feature is much more robustly realized across popular music.
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cordal counterpoint will do that. if you have loads of differing melodic parts harmonising and resolving with each other this leaves relatively little room for percussive dominance.
 
woops

woops

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thirdform said:
cordal counterpoint will do that. if you have loads of differing melodic parts harmonising and resolving with each other this leaves relatively little room for percussive dominance.
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not to mention the inherently uncivilised sound of banging on drums which was left out of the concert hall to military marches etc etc
 
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thirdform

pass the sick bucket
shakahislop said:
yeah. i mean, fair enough. i mean i think i take rap about as seriously as i take any music, which is to say that i spend quite a lot of time thinking and reading about it. it's probably one of the most consistent things i've been into over the past decade or so. but i definitely don't take it as seriously as the people who are properly into it, who i guess to me are really only people i've met on the internet, not real life. i'm alright with that i think.

i mean credible in terms of what i see people on internet message boards talk about when they talk about hiphop they like. which is a distinct thing from the hiphop i hear on like Hot97 here, not that i listen to it much, or coming out of people's cars on the street in the US, or what i hear in tiktok clips on my nieces' feeds. to me they seem to be different categories of things. i have no idea what's credible for like people living in east st louis or whatever, i just don't know anyone like that.

my arse is indeed grown (too much this winter) but again i feel alright getting something out of this mainstream hiphop stuff. i don't really find it embarrassing. well except when people tell me that i should find it embarrassing like here. i do find it pretty interesting to think about what exactly it is that I get out of these tunes though, and what other people get out of it as well (coz this stuff is pretty popular, it's not just me).
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you wanna go on the niketalk rap forum if you must use rap message bords. Although tbf i have a real bone to pick with factmag's approach to rap.
 
Clinamenic

Clinamenic

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Speakers Going Hammer? What?

Whereas I got that sense that the same theme had more substance in the second one, loud music as a sort of proxy for bravado that I thought wasn't indicated in the first one.

I had a professor of African history who once visited some tribal village somewhere and said their culture treated odor as a sort of proxy for power, and you could just drown in the dankness before you even saw the dude.
 
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Clinamenic said:
I was told on more than one occasion to not drive so fast on the television studio lot.
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and what tv studio was this?

also you can't tell me that speakers going hammer doesn't make sense to you? it means they're hammering out sound, the sound is going hard
 
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Clinamenic said:
Speakers Going Hammer? What?

Whereas I got that sense that the same theme had more substance in the second one, loud music as a sort of proxy for bravado that I thought wasn't indicated in the first one.

I had a professor of African history who once visited some tribal village somewhere and said their culture treated odor as a sort of proxy for power, and you could just drown in the dankness before you even saw the dude.
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i have to ask, what was the race of this professor?
 
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