Book of Gardens

[Clinamenic]

To, in effect, play a determining role in the qualia taken on by your conscious experience, to practice magic in the Fortunian sense, to apply a second-order pragmatism.

 

[Clinamenic]

Just threw in a tag for the ages, for this thread.

 

[sus]

Mvuents shadow canon of deleted posts is the second greatest lost wonder of the world

 

[sus]

Tell us more about Fortunian magic @Clinamenic

 

[luka]

im trying to read it. it always takes a long time to read a Gus essay. they're not very user friendly. but i liked the thread and i'll get through it at some point today.

 

[craner]

It's weird, the prose is so condensed and quick that you actually have to deliberately slow down your own reading pace to keep up with it.

 

[luka]

i agree. ive never met prose that repels the eye in quite the way Gus' does.

 

[craner]

Spendo is a much better writer than that stupid 'mathematical vibe' man.

 

[luka]

way better. that guy is the pits. a total loser.

 

[luka]

Gus is good on detail, he'll nick an idea off me and render it in high definition.

 

[luka]

one of the obstacles Gus has to overcome is that he is a total weirdo no human can relate to. but on the other hand that's sort of interesting.

 

[WashYourHands]

 

[WashYourHands]

most importantly, kill the lawn within yourself.

 

[sus]

It's a Christmas miracle

 

[sus]

It's true I did crib some of Luka's ideas, that happened

 

[Clinamenic]

Tell us more about Fortunian magic @Clinamenic

Just that definition of magic attributed to Dion Fortune, something like: magic is the determining of conscious experience according to the will. So a sort of manual rewiring either of A) one’s own psyche, or B) an inter-psychic exchange (IE determining someone else’s conscious experience).

I like this definition because it’s strangely secular for the kind of esoterica Fortune was associated with. She was a contemporary and a follower of Crowley, I believe. This understanding of psychic influence, either over oneself or over others, I think is perhaps even more useful if you strip away the esoteric connotations and just try to understand it in terms of, I guess, phenomenology in the philosophic sense, and hermeneutics. That is, analyzing the experience of sending and receiving messages - influencing and being influenced.

 

[sus]

I'm listening to "A Child's Christmas in Wales" and thinking of Craner

 

[craner]

I'm listening to "A Child's Christmas in Wales" and thinking of Craner

That's so sweet. I grew up in the exact place that story is set.

 

[craner]

@version is laughing because he is a cynic.

 

[craner]

See!