"Why do bankers love techno?"

chava

Well-known member
All of those tracks are totally invigorating and not even close to being boring though. I didn't mention the word soul. I'm a big advocate, but that's not what I'm talking about here. Take Sähkö, some of their most sparse, bleak, anti-groove shit is still totally compelling and not boring at all. You kinda landed on it at the end of your paragraph. There are people who make sparse music and manage to find a way to keep things moving for 6 mins or so with just a few elements. But then there are people who think that being minimal is all it takes, as long as it's kind of intense and all cathedral-like and processed through expensive gear. As for Americans being unable to pull that sort of stuff off, what about James Donaddio, Traxx Alan Oldham or Jamal Moss?
I guess Alan Oldham is very euro influenced. Jamal Moss are probably more influenced by funk and jazz.

Regarding boredom, I also find these records kinda invigorating, but I know a lot of techno heads who find them boring (or did, nowadays techno DJs never express any negative judgements about anything). Here's probably one of my absolute favorite records which I have cleared a bit too many floors with. For many this is anti-techno:

 

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
Traxx and Moss are both from Chi town and were both Hardy heads. Ron played plenty of Euro stuff among the disco and acid. Liasons Dangereuses etc. When you take Ron's crates and quasi-punk attitude into account, what those two have been doing for the last decade-plus makes a lot of sense. They've kept building on what he was doing, which was eclectic and pretty far out at times.
 

rubysay

Active member
I reckon Being trapped in a trance at da club to some techno probably mimicks the feeling of watching capital be moved around all day through some arcane parameters that you only half understand. Watching the pneumatic tubes in action, being held, depressed under the thumb of a kick drum financial mechanism, techno, capital, technocapital. caught up in the gears of a cosmic money machine like charlie chaplin all day, trains your brain to seek similar pleasure stimuli.
I don't know though, as i've experienced neither.
 

woops

is not like other people
I reckon Being trapped in a trance at da club to some techno probably mimicks the feeling of watching capital be moved around all day through some arcane parameters that you only half understand. Watching the pneumatic tubes in action, being held, depressed under the thumb of a kick drum financial mechanism, techno, capital, technocapital. caught up in the gears of a cosmic money machine like charlie chaplin all day, trains your brain to seek similar pleasure stimuli.
I don't know though, as i've experienced neither.
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
i ended up in berghain last weekend cos a friend of mine was visiting and he had guestlists and wanted to go there. it was so extremely miserable. i think we were actually followed by security staff for a while because we stood out so much. meaning we had some laughs, tried to have some fun, were not wearing a outfit consisting of a black leather slip and my friend being the only non-white person inside. all of the faces inside looked so depressed, it's as if everybody inside doesn't actually want to be there but is there anyway and won't leave. people on drugs just looking like shit and you'd wish they would just be at home with a cup of tea instead of walking around paranoid in some hellhole.
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
what was playing that night? i have never been there i think, but i don't go to clubs that much any more and as a rule i don't go to clubs where it's a hassle to get in, i will not wait in queues and i will not let some cunt decide whether i'm cool enough or not.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I wonder if Berghain is a victim of its own success, obviously people travel to Berlin just to go there and get a photo in front of it. But maybe it was always full of miserable graphic designers clad head to toe in black?

I went to Berlin for a mate's stag and went back to the hotel early with someone else to smoke weed. I dunno if I was just pissed off/a weed addict but I remember being pissed off by the selective queuing systems long before a couple of my mates got into Berghain later on that night.

They loved it but then they loved techno.
 

...

Beast of Burden
all of the faces inside looked so depressed, it's as if everybody inside doesn't actually want to be there but is there anyway and won't leave. people on drugs just looking like shit and you'd wish they would just be at home with a cup of tea instead of walking around paranoid in some hellhole.

This sounds like Thirdform's ultimate club.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
i ended up in berghain last weekend cos a friend of mine was visiting and he had guestlists and wanted to go there. it was so extremely miserable. i think we were actually followed by security staff for a while because we stood out so much. meaning we had some laughs, tried to have some fun, were not wearing a outfit consisting of a black leather slip and my friend being the only non-white person inside. all of the faces inside looked so depressed, it's as if everybody inside doesn't actually want to be there but is there anyway and won't leave. people on drugs just looking like shit and you'd wish they would just be at home with a cup of tea instead of walking around paranoid in some hellhole.
what's the @yyaldrin take on berlin?
 
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