"Thought is the enemy of flow"

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wild greens said:
I have had a load of scaffolders working for me this year and though i don't always have time to do it, it's good to watch them in the midst of the graft & momentum, because they will fall into a rhythm on a straightforward job and it does become a flow. I think most non-mechanical (or electrical, unless it's an install) trades will get into that zone where you're accessing the recess of your psyche and conscious action becomes instinctual rhythm
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> The curious thing was not that top decision makers -- medical professionals, firefighters, military commanders, and so on -- were making choices based on unexpected factors; it was that they did not seem to be making choices at all. They were contemplating the situation for a few moments and then just deciding, without considering the alternatives. Some were unable even to explain how they happened upon the course of action they actually took....

> There is a simple house fire in a one-story house in a residential neighborhood. The fire is in the back, in the kitchen area. The lieutenant leads his hose crew into the building, to the back, to spray water on the fire, but the fire just roars back at them. "Odd," he thinks. The water should have more of an impact. They try dousing it again, and get the same results. They retreat a few steps to regroup. Then the lieutenant starts to feel as if something is not right. He doesn’t have any clues; he just doesn’t feel right about being in that house, so he orders his men out of the building -- a perfectly standard building with nothing out of the ordinary. As soon as his men leave the building, the floor where they had been standing collapses. Had they still been inside, they would have plunged into the fire below.
 
Clinamenic

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I have a pseudoscientific suspicion that intensity of thought can be expressed in terms of caloric metabolism.

edit: in the prefrontal cortex, that is
 
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suspended said:
Strong and IMO correct take

I think there is a certain hermeneutics of suspicion where you see verbal production and with its verbal consciousness as pure propaganda (in many different mediums and contexts) for the thinker/speaker—here, one's actual motivations and actions are only loosely coupled to the verbal, insofar as the verbal must plausibly justify/explain/narrativize the actor

What do you make of this? Is it too far? Is it too paranoid?
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I am starting to take this seriously and it is terrifying me
 
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I think its right to think thoughts and annunciations as two seperate process but 'propaganda' doesnt feel like quite the right word.
 
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Clutch I have no idea, but choke I think refers to the stage-fright like phenomenon of being unable to perform at the critical moment. IE I don’t think that one is motor-related, unless there is a triple meaning.
 
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If you think too hard about the effects of your utterances, if you’re paralyzed by decision trees, it hurts your performance. There’s a reason Alexander Technique is so popular among actors.

Certain games are won through ease and self-assurance—surrogates that say, “He isn’t putting on deceptive appearances; he believes the things he’s saying; he knows something we don’t; he has status beyond what is obvious.” Certain games are won by being present, by actually listening to the other person, instead of neurotically calculating three steps ahead. Certain games are won by feeling comfortable, by enjoying yourself.

A Chinese finger trap is a situation where, if you struggle too much, you only get more stuck.

Ultimately, “If I try to play the game [self-consciously], I end up in a neuroticism that hinders my performance” is a deeply strategic objection, rather than an objection to the game as game, to the demands of strategy as strategy.
 
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luka said:
I've never known what people mean by 'thinking.' Thoughts, yes, I can see what people mean by thoughts, but thinking as an active, directed process I'm sceptical about. I'm not convinced it exists. In what I do, which has tight time constraints, typically an idea pops into my head immediately, but if I started 'thinking' I would get stuck.
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It does seem like you can point your attention at things, by use of the Will.

It does seem like you can choose to cram things into your head, into your memory—there is some ability to rig the deck of cards that your consciousness draws from & incants.

People these days are always talking about how the passivity of social feeds leads to an obliteration of the self. If there's something to that, maybe it's about the balance of input time to processing/integrating time is off. A case where less is more.
 
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