IdleRich

IdleRich
you know dj controlled weirdness?
he does my favorite (youtube) podcast
you should go on his podcast and tell your stories
I know him - a bit - we got chatting on nyd and we ended up sharing a cab home.

He used to play sometimes at Wang back in the day and I said how much I'd loved that night and it changed my life and that of many friends.... but he didn't really remember.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I know him - a bit - we got chatting on nyd and we ended up sharing a cab home.

He used to play sometimes at Wang back in the day and I said how much I'd loved that night and it changed my life and that of many friends.... but he didn't really remember.
[Obligatory "if you can remember Wang then you weren't really there" comment]
 

dilbert1

Well-known member
@luka Adorno and Benjamin, who we read last week, are one of k-punk’s key points of intellectual reference via Frederic Jameson and Stuart Hall. We also read a nice Rilke poem. So why must I be your object of ridicule
 

0bleak

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serious question - Are there many posters, beyond some few, where Luka doesn't bust their balls?
sometimes he breaks convention and says something sweet and lovely just so as to soften you up for the next blow
 

dilbert1

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Without his curt jabs and performatively drunken posting this place would suck! But his latest efforts against me are hardly displays of his fine wit
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
@luka Adorno and Benjamin, who we read last week, are one of k-punk’s key points of intellectual reference via Frederic Jameson and Stuart Hall. We also read a nice Rilke poem. So why must I be your object of ridicule

Luke doesn't care about k-punks ideas, he only cares about k-punk as the white man's zadie smith as prose stylist. Can't expect him to tackle Adorno and especially Benjamin's muscular 'Leninism' (albeit this term of leninism is inherently dislikeable for the exaltation of lenin the person.) As mr Erasmus thinks that he shall be able to abuse his body in communism, ignoring that he will not be able to get drunk. not for that of an abstract religious prohibition, but simply because the forward march of society will inevitably decide (as conscious scientific necessity) that alcohol is backwards and cease to draw up plans for its manufacture.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
in a way you have to applaud him though. Given that k-punk is a third rate innovator rejecting the invariant, monolithic and granit foundations of Marxism which put paid to all democratic chattering (or, more correctly, the proletarian class doctrine of combat.)

Now, that does not mean that k-punk doesn't have some astute observations, but they are all filtered through the nauseating stench of post-churchillian british labourism. Like zizek, he is much better as a cultural critic and someone who makes jokes, though unlike the Slovene, he didn't have the same kind of balkan socialisation.

Lenin's strength was thus: when he avered that marxist theory needed to be applied to the russian situation, he did not mean patching it up like duck tape, but applying it with ever more rigor and fortitude.

When Lenin affirmed in 1899 that “We think that an independent elaboration of Marx’s theory is especially essential for Russian socialists” (IV, 213) he meant a “concrete analysis of the concrete situation”, not an innovation so much in tactics as in revolutionary theory. The article from which the quote is taken, “Our Programme”, lashes out precisely against the innovators like Bernstein (who was further “to the left” than the PCI leaders of the second post-war period), while defending himself, as we must continually do as well, from accusations of “dogmatism”. In that same article our Vladimir reminds us that “Marx’s theory … has only laid the foundation stone of the science which socialists must develop in all directions”. This is the meaning of the “independent elaboration” of which Lenin speaks, and not that of dismantling Marxism, including cornerstones and foundations.
Other Stalinists have evoked an elusive “new Marxist theory of revolution” by Lenin. In this they are in good company, with trotskists: Mandel, for example, who writes of an alleged “original development” of the Marxist theory by Lenin, or others of the “far” left, for whom no parts of Marxism “can be dogmatically fixed, they require a continual re-elaboration and development”, and a hundred others, of greater or lesser political calibre, all however eager to find substantial innovations in what they call “Leninism”, to legitimise their discoveries, their innovations, their ideological filth. The technique of extrapolating sentences from the context and then using them to affirm the opposite of what the original work defends goes back to Stalin, but many students have gone beyond the master in the technique of falsification and have filled millions of pages of anti-communist and anti-proletarian trash. In reaffirming the foundations of Marxism in Lenin we are therefore forced to employ not very brief quotations, and to place them in the true historical and political context in which the texts of Lenin himself were expressed.

 

kid charlemagne

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@kid charlemagne
keep in mind that's really early coil from 83 - you can't judge them just by that (or any single track really)
not that I really recommend it as a cohesive listening experience:
i meant to reply to this, but i recently started listening to Coil, just this one album, musick to play in the dark... i liked it quite a bit, it sounded like movie msuic. i cant remember if ive asked abuot it before but music ou associalte with films. wow
 

version

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i meant to reply to this, but i recently started listening to Coil, just this one album, musick to play in the dark... i liked it quite a bit, it sounded like movie msuic. i cant remember if ive asked abuot it before but music ou associalte with films. wow

Coil did a soundtrack for Hellraiser, but it ended up being rejected.

 

0bleak

Well-known member
^1987
Printed on sleeve: "The only group I've heard on disc, whose records I've taken off because they made my bowels churn." - Clive Barker, Director (and Writer) of Hellraiser.
 

0bleak

Well-known member
kind surprised something didn't happen since they were only a step away through their association with Reznor
remixing them or directing one of their videos would have been a nice paycheck at least
 
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