they aren't cults but you can see where the us right-wing dickhead critique of the universities being cults that indoctrinate the children comes from. all those colleges out in the absolute middle of nowhere with outrageously good facilities, where more or less everyone attending has a fuck ton of money. no need to leave the community. or in a lot of cases nowhere to go, coz they're in the middle of a load of fields, with the nearest small city a couple of hours of drive away. or they're part of a town, but half the town is the college, and the other half is for people who provide services to the college. very much communities which are isolated from the rest of the world. there's a load in new england. oberlin, cornell, bennington. i think some of the contours of the social justice thing aren't unrelated to these places being so insular.
Oh right. I thought there were tons of those guys in Hollywood though? I mean he's obviously the most high profile, but aren't there others who are fairly big deals?
To play devil's advocate for a sec, is this really that much worse than any given famous actor being Catholic, given the Catholic church's well known tendencies towards tolerating and even covering up child abuse of various kinds?This is what I mean. Obviously it's not like we could do anything anyway, but it's just accepted that Tom Cruise is a Scientologist and people don't bat an eye.
As for others, there are but most of them aren't as high profile as him. Giovanni Ribisi's one; Ethan Suplee's one; Michael Peña's one; Will and Jada Pinkett Smith are rumoured to be, so Will would be up there with Cruise.
Without actually knowing, my guess would be that Satmars owned a significant % of Williamsburg real estate pre-gentrification, and Hasidic sects are extremely socially cohesive so they look after their own - that town I mentioned is sustained I believe by a combination of copious govt aid and contributions from wealthy Satmars back in Brooklyn. The dark flipside of that cohesiveness is ofc extreme social control - punishment and ostracization for any deviation - and insularity, i.e. refusal to go to secular authorities for things like domestic abuse, child abuse, etc.again, the kind of thing that seems much more part of the american fabric, there is something more permissive and accepting in the US i think.
To play devil's advocate for a sec, is this really that much worse than any given famous actor being Catholic, given the Catholic church's well known tendencies towards tolerating and even covering up child abuse of various kinds?
OK, if we're talking concentrations of evil then the CoS no doubt wins hands down.I don't know. It's better than him joining the Catholic church if we're going on the crimes of each organisation, but Scientology being such a recent creation and without the cultural reach and weight that means millions of people worldwide are Catholic seems the less acceptable one to be an active member of, particularly when he's alleged to hold a prominent role within the hierarchy in a way he couldn't if he were Catholic.
Didn't see this before but yeah the U.S. 12 Tribes have extremely weird, problematic views on and complex relationships with Black people and Judaism. They're similar to Mormons in that regard. One time in Burlington I overheard a 12 Tribes guy (I think) trying to explain their view of Jews and Israel to some regular hippies. Real galaxy brain stuff.I've seen a few things by "hikers" about how the Yellow Deli on the Appalachian Trail is a white supremacist twelve tribes net to trap unsuspecting pure blood white hill walkers into the 14 words
it's confusing because in the UK we have an unrelated twelve tribes which is a full on african carribean rasta org*
* a friend of mine works with a full on 12 tribes rasta lady who bangs on about HAARP, who refused to wear a mask during lockdown because of SCAMDEMIC, and maybe believes in UFOs
I'd love to see these guys go head to head with the Black Hebrew Israelites.Didn't see this before but yeah the U.S. 12 Tribes have extremely weird, problematic views on and complex relationships with Black people and Judaism. They're similar to Mormons in that regard. One time in Burlington I overheard a 12 Tribes guy (I think) trying to explain their view of Jews and Israel to some regular hippies. Real galaxy brain stuff.