Barbie

[Benny Bunter]

Sam Smith, Pink, Dua Lipa, Billie Eilish. All the demonic peedo cabal puppets out in full force, as you'd expect

 

[version]

You're sounding a bit Vigilant Citizen.

 

[Benny Bunter]

You could have easily guessed who'd be on the soundtrack, come on, he's got a point

 

[version]

come on, he's got a point

Are you referring to yourself in the third person? What's going on?

 

[shiels]

this is the alt-right position as pre-empted by @vimothy

yeah that’s a bit of a stretch though isn’t it, undermines by the point earlier

“ The role of capitalist ideology is not to make an explicit case for something in the way that propaganda does”

 

[Benny Bunter]

Are you referring to yourself in the third person? What's going on?

I mean VG obviously.

If we'd said asked a year ago, who'd be on a Barbie film soundtrack? we'd have said all those people, all of em VG regulars.

 

[Benny Bunter]

Vigilant Citizen is hilarious and easy to just laugh at, but also he's got a point

 

[version]

I'll probably watch it if it ends up on TV at some point.

 

[luka]

vigilant citizen is an uncanny genius. having said that he ran out of genuine inspiration years back. it just runs on a formula now, almost self generating.

 

[Benny Bunter]

Yeah it was you who drew my attention to him actually. The articles just write themselves now by this point though

 

[version]

The Eyes Wide Shut two-parter was pretty entertaining, but I have a low tolerance for their sort of thing.

 

[rubberdingyrapids]

I imagine its going to be to cutesy and self aware about its quirk and choke the life of out of it rather than just letting it be

not even that.

its more, lets not even do much quirk or cute, and just get to speechifying. its a film built by and for The Discourse. if spike lee was a feminist, this is probabky how he would tackle it. they werent trying to be subtle - its a film that tells, it doesnt show.

 

[shiels]

not even that.

its more, lets not even do much quirk or cute, and just get to speechifying. its a film built by and for The Discourse. if spike lee was a feminist, this is probabky how he would tackle it. they werent trying to be subtle - its a film that tells, it doesnt show.

Case in point for the effectiveness- just seen this from someone who hasn’t seen the film ! which is basically just excerpts from other people’s reviews

Wall Street Journal's Bitter Condemnation of Barbie Has Me Sprinting to the Theater

"As bubbly as the film appears, its script is like a grumpier-than-average women’s studies seminar," writes Kyle Smith. Don't threaten me with a good time!

jezebel.com

 

[luka]

The Eyes Wide Shut two-parter was pretty entertaining, but I have a low tolerance for their sort of thing.

it's cos you got no imagination.

 

[rubberdingyrapids]

the speech america ferrara delivers (in fairness, she does it brilliantly, she was one of the best things in the film) made me think of the cool girl moment in gone girl -

Gillian Flynn – Gone Girl: "Cool Girl" Monologue (Book)

The famous speech from Gillian Flynn’s 2012 novel Gone Girl Flynn adapted this monologue for the 2014 movie version of her book.

genius.com

 

[version]

I suppose a counter argument to the points about its preachiness would be that they're aiming for a broad audience of adults and children and want to make sure the message comes across.

 

[rubberdingyrapids]

not sure how many parents want to explain to their 4 year old what The Patriarchy means.

 

[version]

Case in point for the effectiveness- just seen this from someone who hasn’t seen the film ! which is basically just excerpts from other people’s reviews

Wall Street Journal's Bitter Condemnation of Barbie Has Me Sprinting to the Theater

"As bubbly as the film appears, its script is like a grumpier-than-average women’s studies seminar," writes Kyle Smith. Don't threaten me with a good time!

jezebel.com

So much these days seems to run on spiting hypothetical or actual opponents. It's the great motivator. I'm going to make a point of liking or doing this because I know it upsets and annoys the people I don't like. 'Owning the libs' and all that shit.

 

[version]

it's cos you got no imagination.

That's not true. I'm imagining killing you for this response.

 

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They're going to run it into the ground, like they do everything. Apparently Mattel have a ton of films lined up based on their products. This is the next thing after superheroes, like I said in 'Culture as Advertising'.

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