Frank Frazetta vs Norman Rockwell

[Mr. Tea]

Excellent visual depiction of a really dreadful hangover.

 

[version]

1. Kitsch depicts a beautiful or highly emotionally charged subject;

Does this apply to Rockwell? I'd argue his work tends to depict neither.

 

[linebaugh]

Does this apply to Rockwell? I'd argue his work tends to depict neither.

Hes depicting the american dream. You dont think thats emotionally charged ?

 

[Corpsey]

From the Scruton piece:

The Czech novelist Milan Kundera made a famous observation. "Kitsch," he wrote, "causes two tears to flow in quick succession. The first tear says: How nice to see children running on the grass! The second tear says: How nice to be moved, together with all mankind, by children running on the grass!" Kitsch, in other words, is not about the thing observed but about the observer. It does not invite you to feel moved by the doll you are dressing so tenderly, but by yourself dressing the doll. All sentimentality is like this - it redirects emotion from the object to the subject, so as to create a fantasy of emotion without the real cost of feeling it. The kitsch object encourages you to think, "Look at me feeling this - how nice I am and how lovable." That is why Oscar Wilde, referring to one of Dickens's most sickly death-scenes, said that "a man must have a heart of stone not to laugh at the death of Little Nell".

 

[Corpsey]

Rockwell probably wouldn't be accused of being kitsch if he was a cartoonist.

His reputation rests on his technical skills, which he clearly had plenty of.

Personally, I find his style ugly, distasteful, hateful, as hateful as the Boston Tea Party!

 

[Corpsey]

 

[luka]

corpsey lost!

 

[malelesbian]

My answer to the question in this thread's title is Alex Ross

 

[sufi]

My answer to the question in this thread's title is Alex Ross

i was thinking of Frank Bellamy and Frank Hampson if we're straying towards comic books

 

[wild greens]

@version @wild greens what do you like more about rockwell?

Sorry, bit late to the party

I hate "fantasy" art it reminds me of games workshop and weird smelling kids from school

Rockwell reminds me of my nan

I dont actually remember clicking the poll but there you go

 

[linebaugh]

Frazetta at ten years old

 

[version]

A bear of a man.

 

[luka]

this is the franz franzetta of our day

 

[luka]

what a legend

 

[version]

There's a guy, Jon McNaughton, who does these awful/hilarious political paintings.

 

[linebaugh]

This is disrespectful to frank