other_life

bioconfused
some optimistic read where hip hop has escaped the demands rockism puts on music/what it expects music to demand of it. i don't buy it but i'm forwarding it here anyway lol
 

ghost

Well-known member
In 2022, we got totally solid albums from Little Simz, Pa Salieu, Pusha T, Nigo, and the Bad Boy Chiller Crew. You can argue about a few of those, it's obviously not Pusha's best or whatever.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I don't listen to much anymore disclaimer

There's a lot of decent stuff out there I'm sure but I rarely hear anything that surprises or excites me

I don't know how much of that is down to me just getting burned out on the genre from overexposure

Like there's a load of songs I loved when I was really into the genre 4-5 years ago (or more?) that now just seem decent to me, not essential

The only stuff that has excited me is the new York drill (meets new jersey club) which again you really have to immerse yourself in to not be put off by all the screaming
 

other_life

bioconfused
(<- an idiot)
what if drill and bmore breaks somehow Merged and that meant american breakbeat producers had an In for on trend rap production
 

version

Well-known member
Country's what's in now. Beyonce just released a country album, Lana Del Rey's releasing one, Rihanna's just done a cowgirl shoot for one of the fashion mags, Post Malone's doing music with Luke Combs.

Some people think it's part of a broader shift away from black culture in America as a second Trump term looms, the blonde-haired, blue-eyed, big-boobed Sydney Sweeney becomes the new It Girl, Kylie Jenner leaves Travis Scott for Timothee Chalamet and Kanye becomes a neo-Nazi and starts wearing Burzum gear. You could probably find a load of examples to counter that claim, mind you.
 

version

Well-known member
Yeah but all that shit that that lot at that level do is a quick flash in the pan and then they move on. Like Bey was all about house for 5mins...

If you follow the fashion and celebrity blogs, people have been calling out Ariana Grande for changing her accent and ethnicity based on trends.


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pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
Meh. Top level celeb stuff has gotten so fucking boring. We went from having people with personalities to this Disneyfied shit.
 

version

Well-known member
The fact trends may have progressed to the point of races going in and out of fashion is striking though. It's not entirely new, but it's an intensification when you've got celebrities having surgery to look like a different race every six months.
 

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
The fact trends may have progressed to the point of races going in and out of fashion is striking though. It's not entirely new, but it's an intensification when you've got celebrities having surgery to look like a different race every six months.

Idk, it all just blurs into one blob
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
did he switch his allegiances to trini? even that seemed to be stuck at dejected stasis. Rebel Sixx of course stood out (before he died) but I think barty got stuck at the sex god aspect and never quite caught onto the melancholy.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
people (noz lol) are (to my mind) very tepidly like "hip hop is thriving precisely where those who aren't totally immersed can't hear it and in formats that bounce off of them when they do hear it (YouTube platform ciphers and sub 3 minute singles)"

isn't this just the format for all popularly consumed music nowadays?

The bourgeois bohemian would gnash their teath and scream into the existential void about the loss of the vitality of youth culture, but I think it's something more fundamental, that we move at a pace where trends struggle to inhere.

It's what I was saying about jungle in the other thread. Things moved so fast in the 90s because people moved slower. Today, we're moving fast, we can get any record from cambodia or wherever, and popular culture will evolve at a snails pace, precisely because nothing can become *the consensus.*

To be able to do that, you need social spaces, youth clubs, community centres, even nightclubs (as much as it pains me to say that.) The virtual cannot replace real interaction. What happens now is that virtual space is socialised and centralised, whereas communal space has undergone a decentralisation to appeal to the whims of petit-bourgeois malcontents and property developers. FUCK SMALL BUSINESSES!

Forget the gentrification of culture, your breathing is gentrified, fam.
 
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