General election 2024

0bleak

0bleak

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william_kent said:
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who is the goa trance casualty they let out of the loony bin for the day?
 
william_kent

william_kent

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0bleak said:
who is the goa trance casualty they let out of the loony bin for the day?
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the caption should have read:

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer (left) gives a victory speech watched by Nick the Incredible Flying Brick (second right) and Bobby ‘Elmo’ Smith (right)
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so "NICK THE INCREDIBLE FLYING BRICK"

edit: he was actually the candidate for the "Monster Raving Loony Party" so you were pretty spot on with your observation
 
subvert47

subvert47

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I think the fact they won those seats anyway and that scrapping it would open them up to Tory attacks re: encouraging voter fraud means they'll be hesitant to scrap it.
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The Tories just got absolutely stuffed. They can just laugh them off. But having won a miraculous landslide with half a million fewer votes than Corbyn's 2019 debacle, they need to be thinking about the next election already. I might put a bet down on Reform.
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Where the fuck do they find these clowns? Well, I guess the obvious answer is 'Cornwall'...

www.bbc.com

Gloom in Looe as fishermen reflect on Labour win

South East Cornwall's long-standing Conservative MP is ousted by Labour in a constituency first.
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Richard Chapman mends his nets in a gloomy Looe harbour and considers whether his new MP will bring Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer's promised "sunlight of hope".
South East Cornwall's long-standing Conservative MP Sheryll Murray has been ousted by Labour's Anna Gelderd - a constituency first.
The clouds break but Mr Chapman barely glances up from his task as he reflects on an industry he believes has been overlooked.
"I voted Conservative, it seemed the lesser of two evils. I've no clue what Labour's policy is on fishing but every government so far has been a let down," he says.
"You look around the port, it's dying," Mr Chapman adds.
"When I started from school there were 50 boats - crabbing netters, handline mackerel boats, trawlers.
"There are just six trawlers left.
"I liked to think my children, who are six and 10, would want to join the industry. I don't want that for them now."
He cites "red tape and paperwork" - "made worse by Brexit".
Among them are catch quotas, the introduction of a mandatory catch app to record catches before they are landed, new vessel monitoring systems and inspections.
Labour has said it will sign veterinary agreements to reduce the need for export paperwork.
It also said it would help rebuild trade.
"I always have hope but I don't know if it's realistic," says Mr Chapman.
"We're such a small part of the country's GDP that we are always overlooked for industries worth a lot more income to the government.
"I would say to the new MP look after the little man - the independent fishers."
As the rain pauses and seagulls swoop, Dave Bond leads the way through a scattering of tourists and down a ladder to his trawler Mystique II.

Outgoing Conservative Sheryll Murray's roots run deep in Looe; it was where her husband Neil Murray worked before he died in a suspected fishing accident.

Mr Bond, chairman of the Looe Harbour Commissioners, knew him well and his loyalty extended to a Conservative vote on Thursday night.

"I had a personal connection with Sheryll Murray... she always did her best for the fishing," says Mr Bond.

"As much as I feel the country's in a mess, I think it's going to be in a mess whichever way you vote... better the devil you know than the devil you don't."
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Some followers of the @Benny Bunter school of politics here.
 
Benny Bunter

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Mr. Tea said:
Where the fuck do they find these clowns? Well, I guess the obvious answer is 'Cornwall'...

Some followers of the @Benny Bunter school of politics here.
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The better the devil you know argument isn't stupid at all, especially since no one really knows what Labour are going to do cos they haven't really said, and they appear to be a bunch of idealistic clowns with the power to make huge, costly and irreversible changes.
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

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The better the devil you know argument isn't stupid at all, especially since no one really knows what Labour are going to do cos they haven't really said, and they appear to be a bunch of idealistic clowns with the power to make huge, costly and irreversible changes.
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Even if they have policies that are different from the Tories and sound like they might actually be better?

The bit that really made me laugh was the trawlerman guy saying "I have no idea what Labour's fishing policies are so I'll vote for the party whose policies have all but ruined me", followed by a brief description of a Labour policy that could actually help the fishing industry.
 
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Benny Bunter said:
The better the devil you know argument isn't stupid at all, especially since no one really knows what Labour are going to do cos they haven't really said, and they appear to be a bunch of idealistic clowns with the power to make huge, costly and irreversible changes.
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Well, so far they've said they want closer ties with the EU on national security, to renationalise the railways, to reform the prison system, to overhaul the planning system and to negotiate with the BMA to prevent further strikes. They've also scrapped the Rwanda policy which allegedly cost £75m per person and involved a grand total of five people.
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

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He even specifically cited Brexit - a policy instigated and carried out by the Conservatives - as something that had fucked him over!

How far do you want to take this "yes, but what comes next could be even worse" philosophy? How about "Yes, this man has been keeping me strapped to a table and torturing me for the last 14 years, but I hope he doesn't stop, because if that happens then someone else might come and inflict even worse tortures on me"?

Things can get better as well as worse, and it's only by having some faith in this that any positive change can ever happen. Otherwise we'd still have slavery and only 5% of the adult population able to vote, because we don't want to upset the applecart, do we?
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

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I want to hear Benny record a version of the D:Ream song that goes "Things will almost certainly get worse."
 
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Mr. Tea said:
He even specifically cited Brexit - a policy instigated and carried out by the Conservatives - as something that had fucked him over!

How far do you want to take this "yes, but what comes next could be even worse" philosophy? How about "Yes, this man has been keeping me strapped to a table and torturing me for the last 14 years, but I hope he doesn't stop, because if that happens then someone else might come and inflict even worse tortures on me"?

Things can get better as well as worse, and it's only by having some faith in this that any positive change can ever happen. Otherwise we'd still have slavery and only 5% of the adult population able to vote, because we don't want to upset the applecart, do we?
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A political analogue of Stockholm Syndrome.
 
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The bar's so low at this point that Labour are a breath of fresh air simply for seeming to take the job seriously and talking like adults. A far cry from hiding in a fridge or claiming your policy's not working because the markets and financial institutions are secretly run by Communists.
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

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The bar's so low at this point that Labour are a breath of fresh air simply for seeming to take the job seriously and talking like adults. A far cry from hiding in a fridge or claiming your policy's not working because the markets and financial institutions are run by Communists.
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Exactly. A common complaint is that they're "boring", but "boring" has got to be better than "exhilaratingly awful."
 
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