is this forum in the worst state it's ever been in?

is this forum in the worst state it's ever been in?

  • definitely

    Votes: 7 70.0%

  • possibly

    Votes: 3 30.0%
  • Total voters
    10
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mistersloane

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william kent said:
If you look at early Dissensus, it was mostly the latter. It was only really a period of a few years from like 2018 to 2021 where we had the big ideas threads on here.
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Nah, there were mega ideas threads 2007 onwards, even before that. I was late to the party even then.
 
versh

versh

Well-known member
mistersloane said:
Nah, there were mega ideas threads 2007 onwards, even before that. I was late to the party even then.
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Fair enough. Whenever I've gone back through older threads, it's been rare they've been particularly active, barring the rolling music and politics ones. Those big ones Barty and luka were kicking off for a few years seem fairly unique.
 
mixed_biscuits

mixed_biscuits

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Clinamenic said:
Arguably this forum's volksgeist cannot develop past capitalism.
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If anything, the forum is stymied by its own capital: the accretion of thoughts over the centuries have left little new to say, especially if luka immediately points out that such-and-such topic thread already exists.
 
mixed_biscuits

mixed_biscuits

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It's pointless coming up with new ideas because for most people here their horizon stretches no further than whatever the Guardian thinks is acceptable. They have ideas which they don't really understand and can't back up and they don't have the thinking skills to push at their own boundaries. The problem isn't something else. The problem is you.

This doesn't apply to everyone.
 
mixed_biscuits

mixed_biscuits

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The forum is best when it has a kind of late night "bull session" vibe, but for that you need some flexibility of thought and willingness to push at the taboo.
 
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mixed_biscuits

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What is somewhat odd is the people turning up to 100 page threads complaining that not everyone is toeing a certain party line, as if that would be in any way representative of society at large. They're just dying for dissensus in toto to reflect their own personal brand or some very narrow range of possibility.
 
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mixed_biscuits

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If @woops spent as much time on his journal français as he does reminiscing about an imaginary prelapsarian golden age this forum would be swinging like Mumsnet in no time at all. Allez le woops!
 
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versh said:
This seems to be a broader issue online. Everyone's said everything you could say about everything, so now it's just constant recycling. I've seen this on the Red Scare subs too. The options seem to be rehashing the same meta conversations or picking something specific and going deep, i.e. doing 'dematerialisation' over and over or doing threads on certain artists or genres, although usually what happens is people don't go deep and it just becomes a half-arsed thing where some tunes and opinions get posted and that's it.

If you look at early Dissensus, it was mostly the latter. It was only really a period of a few years from like 2018 to 2021 where we had the big ideas threads on here. There are some lengthier, more substantial posts, but a lot of the threads had next to no replies and were just standard music discussions or political discussions with some nasty arguments thrown in.
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I have some thread ideas; I think there are lots of new interesting things to still be talked about, I think the question maybe is why the reinforcement machine isn't encouraging people to think these ways or talk these ways. The last time I felt moved was when Linebaugh DM'd me about the Double, and I think I made a really heroic effort over several pages, but the thread died anyway. Or Linebaugh made the Corpsey Dating Advice thread and Corpsey never posted in it. Come to think of it, Linebaugh has been putting in a lot of work. We have been letting him down. We ought to feel ashamed of ourselves

I could start some threads but it feels like a lot of effort and will anything interesting be said in the replies? Would there even be any replies? I've been thinking about:

- Mineral evolution ("Life was invented by rocks to make more rocks")
- Geology as the base causal layer (e.g. How does Greenwich Village stay brownstones? The bedrock. Why does Highway 101 take the path it takes? Because the old Indian and Missionary trails needed to follow a water source)
- Sex as suicide; symbiosis as suicide; symbiosis as slavery
- Ungulates and bovines as archetypal forms (the grazer, the yoked pack animal, the beast of burden)
- "The seed of rot is planted at the moment of conception" (parasites enter the flower/fruit when its sex organs open themselves up to pollination)
 
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RWY

Well-known member
0bleak said:
What I'm curious about are a couple of people that "liked" what @woops said, but practically never engage with the forum, or at least since I've been here.
"As a lurker, I'm disappointed in the state of the forum that I never engage with."
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@ me next time
 
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