Benny Bunter
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Tbh, I probably wouldn't bother engaging at all with this stuff if there weren't other similarly ignorant but curious people to chat to about it, which is why I love dissensus.
no home to go back to
ive found and am enjoying an essay about jhp ive not read before. i thought id read all of them
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Placing Homelessness: Reading J.H. Prynne's Wound Response
This paper proposes that the concept of place in J.H. Prynne’s Wound Response (1974) is founded on a condition of homelessness. Prynne recognizes the complicity of a humanist idea of home with totalitarian fantasies of foundations and origins. We argue that Wound Response constitutes a homeless...poetry.openlibhums.org
Ok that helps a tiny bit but what is e.g. unennhalte because literally this essay is the only time that word has ever been indexed by googleLet's see if we can break it down.
Apophatic theology, also known as negative theology,[1] is a form of theological thinking and religious practice which attempts to approach God, the Divine, by negation, to speak only in terms of what may not be said about the perfect goodness that is God.[web 1] It forms a pair together with cataphatic theology, which approaches God or the Divine by affirmations or positive statements about what God is.[web 2]
In that prof Michael Sugrue lecture I just listened to, he warns that Heidegger is in danger of falling into nihilism.
In this context, the theorist seems to suggest an approach to poetry influenced by Heidegger's ideas, where the focus is on what cannot be expressed or defined, pushing the limits of language itself.
Unennhalte: This seems like a misspelling or conceptual variation of the German word "Unenthaltbar," which can mean "unsustainable" or "untenable." It might also refer to "das Ungehaltene" (the unrestrained) or "das Unhaltbare" (the indefinable or uncontainable).
The phrase likely gestures toward an attempt to engage with something inherently elusive, indefinable, or unsustainable—possibly the very limits of language or meaning within the poem
Turner’s claim that "no one had any business to like the picture" points to modern art's autonomy. Art is not created to elicit shared experience or endorsement but instead reflects subjective intensity and its independence from collective validation.
Paradox of Representation: The uniqueness of personal experience (what happens to me, not you) paradoxically allows art to capture the broader historical condition of “unsociable togetherness.” Art bridges individuality and collectivity by representing isolation within a shared human condition.
"Whole Otherness": Prynne’s poem gestures toward an indefinable moment of transcendence (“no name & place”), challenging the reader to recognize and engage with an elusive, unspeakable otherness. This moment reflects the tension between historical foreclosures (knowledge shaped by the past) and the possibility of genuine ethical or transformative change.
The circular movement of epic—departure, estrangement, and return—represents the process of discovery and reconciliation.
"Scythian hordes": The Scythians were a nomadic people of the Eurasian steppes, often depicted in classical sources as fierce and uncivilized. They might symbolize a wild, untamed frontier, both geographically and metaphorically.And sprang with that double twist into the
Middle world and thence took flight over the
Scythian hordes and to the Hyperborean,
Touch of the north wind
carrying with him Apollo
You should read aristea!"Scythian hordes": The Scythians were a nomadic people of the Eurasian steppes, often depicted in classical sources as fierce and uncivilized. They might symbolize a wild, untamed frontier, both geographically and metaphorically.
"Hyperborean": In Greek mythology, the Hyperboreans were a mythical people who lived in a utopian land far to the north, untouched by the struggles of ordinary life. This evokes an idealized, unreachable space, possibly contrasting with the harshness of the Scythian steppe.
"Touch of the north wind": The north wind (Boreas in Greek mythology) carries connotations of cold, power, and transformation. It also connects to the Hyperborean myth, as their land is often associated with northern winds and divine influences.
Some people say it's the only modern epic poem in English there is. The cantos don't get there, too unstructured.What was the last proper epic poem written? Jones' Anathemata? Probably.
Maybe Heidegger was just a total bullshitter, ultimately leading nowhere.
A Christian worldview, but with God taken out.