Dylan: I just don't get it, and I never will

[luka]

id have to disagree given all the songs you posted are excreable id say he was someone that rode a wave for a while and then fell off it and once that happened there was nothing left of him. a total idiot. a moron. a husk. happens all the time. genius is a form of posession burroughs reckoned, and what posesses you tends to leve before you die. why have you forsaken me.

 

[sus]

well there's no accounting for taste

 

[0bleak]

And besides all that, the big thing that happened was that "disco" (loose terminology here) became the center of British music in a way that it never did in America.

er, I guess if you're not counting the 1970s!
It totally overwhelmed everything else here so much that, as a kid, it was practically coming out of my pores and this was in kentucky, not exactly the place that people think when they think disco. Although, fun facts: about 90% of disco balls were made there in kentucky in the 1970s, and Midnight Star formed there in 1976.
and there where discos EVERYWHERE - even my dad went a few times - it kind of makes me laugh thinking about it

 

[kid charlemagne]

id have to disagree given all the songs you posted are excreable id say he was someone that rode a wave for a while and then fell off it and once that happened there was nothing left of him. a total idiot. a moron. a husk. happens all the time. genius is a form of posession burroughs reckoned, and what posesses you tends to leve before you die. why have you forsaken me.

i love dylan to death

luka was so much older then, hes younger than that now

 

[sus]

Cut him with a knife!

 

[sus]

My old mucker Luke Heronbone is gonna fucking hate me for dragging him into this too, but I kept flashing on the similarity of the process of Heronbone to that early period of Dylan's intensity and fecundity.

 

[sus]

And dont be sidetracked by the bloody lyrics, i mean who cares (?) the delivery is EVERYTHING. That naked conviction and bloody intensity.

 

[kid charlemagne]

To me a lot of what sets Dylan apart is how he's always changing, always reinventing himself, always rebuilding himself. This is a pretty vanilla stance in theory but in practice all the Dylan hagiography is around one single change—the Newport Electric moment. He's still thought of first and foremost as a political folk-rock songwriter which was a stage in a progression. Even people who talk about Protean Dylan are embarrassed by his Christian turn, they try to ignore it pretend it never happened they don't listen to anything he did after Blood on the Tracks

But what makes him great and not just some overhyped folk rocker is the full scope of his career—not just the conversion to electric at Newport, which is central to his hagiography, but many turns and pivots, including the Christian conversion. (Which is one of the parts of his career that is actually STILL subversive and interesting, that hasn't been domesticated and integrated into baby boomer mythology the way the Newport electric moment has been.)

wait til these people get to the standards records..... theres a validated adulation for the 60s and 70s periods, but whats still fascinating is that there are 4 more decades of music where hes stayed consistent in masterpiece songwriting and music.... as for the remaining massive mythical appraisal for him, pretty much soley being for the 60s/70s work, it certainly has to also be partly because of how consistent his output has been, since the 70s, he has toured nearly every year and released multiple albums per decade..... think about it, would he still be as popular and highly lauded if he had died in the 70s or something?

 

[kid charlemagne]

this is a big thing noticable with the chalamet movie... he gave. a good performance and his singing was good enough, but if you listen to some of the studio recordings that they released, they are so flat, there is none of the dylan scorn or delivery being replicated, he does his best with the voice, but yea

 

[sus]

You can't really imitate it no one ever has he has a sea of imitators but none of them actually manage it they just copy the trappings what they really need is to channel a mentality but it's impossible, they'd need to be a very specific kind of person

 

[kid charlemagne]

i will be seeing the film again tomorrow with a woman.... hoping to like it better, but i can point myself on screen to her and talk to her about the movie.... she will listen and agree

 

[luka]

i do still love him to death im just saying you cant make arguments for anything outside the classic period. you can't do it. it's illegal. those records are monsterous. once the spirit has left him hes the purest example of an idiot you'll ever find. if anyone doubts this just look at his paintings.
conclusive proof of what a moron he is. mvuent agrees with me. he says it often.

 

[luka]

Bob Dylan | Online Exhibition

This month Bob Dylan returns to the UK to perform live for the first time in over three years. In commemoration of his sell-out Rough and Rowdy Ways tour, Halcyon Gallery are proud to present a selection of paintings, lyrics & drawings and ironworks.

www.halcyongallery.com

do not avert your eyes

 

[Corpsey]

Always enjoy it ain't over till it's over whenever I hear it, but everything else he's done is awful

Oh yeah that is a great song

Actually I was climbing yesterday and they played "fly away" and at first I laughed but by the end I was singing along passionately

And that fake Hendrix one he did, I liked that as a child, before I was trying to impress anybody which must mean I actually do like it

 

[Corpsey]

Somebody edit videos of palisades homes burning with Idiot Wind playing over it, it will go viral in a big way.

 

[Corpsey]

I sometimes worry k punk will return like Jesus and read my posts praising Lenny kravitz

 

[luka]

O

Actually I was climbing yesterday

Wtf!!!!🤣🤣😂😂😂

 

[Corpsey]

 

[Corpsey]

Ghostwritten by Bob Dylan Apparently

 

[Murphy]

did Dylan make it into your 60's Santafest, @Benny Bunter ?