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Did Alex Reece use the Reese in Pulp Fiction? That's what I (evidently incorrectly) always understood it to mean in a d'n'b context.
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I bet the Roland techs that did the orig presets & PCB layouts etc. are about as disinterested in what was done to / with their creations as the drummer from The Winstons was.
years ago I saw a site that broke down the 'hoover bass' & had lil mp3s of each variation. To me 'Mentasm' has always meant the same basic sound but played in a more stabby staccato kinda way, whereas a hoover is the legato version, often with loads of filtering for maximum chemical effect!
After doin it myself I was always convinced that Ed Rush just sampled Pulp Fiction... I'm prob wrong.
I bet the Roland techs that did the orig presets & PCB layouts etc. are about as disinterested in what was done to / with their creations as the drummer from The Winstons was.
years ago I saw a site that broke down the 'hoover bass' & had lil mp3s of each variation. To me 'Mentasm' has always meant the same basic sound but played in a more stabby staccato kinda way, whereas a hoover is the legato version, often with loads of filtering for maximum chemical effect!
After doin it myself I was always convinced that Ed Rush just sampled Pulp Fiction... I'm prob wrong.
yes he did but it was obv about ages before that.
the etymology has probably developed offspring though in the form of that particular use if you see what i mean
Yehp... all explained here, but confusingly enough Reese also sampled a section of Beltram's Hoover in one of his ace Tronik House tracks 'Up Tempo' - - he may have made his own version for the track from the Roland Alpha Juno synth WhatThe? preset , but i think he just nicked the sample as it's exactly the same just a different length.
And Reese also has a track called bassline, which features a bassline which isn't what you would really call a 'Reese' i dont think (and which i've had other naming issues with for years as it isn't really thaaat bassy a bassline in club terms, even though it's pretty good)
Also second ye that Kevin Saunderson is ace... i had been wanting to see him play his good shit for ages, until i eventually saw him and he played a couple of his groovier housey ones along with loads of sanitized groovy house (that's usually a bad thing in my book).
And Reese also has a track called bassline, which features a bassline which isn't what you would really call a 'Reese' i dont think (and which i've had other naming issues with for years as it isn't really thaaat bassy a bassline in club terms, even though it's pretty good)
Also second ye that Kevin Saunderson is ace... i had been wanting to see him play his good shit for ages, until i eventually saw him and he played a couple of his groovier housey ones along with loads of sanitized groovy house (that's usually a bad thing in my book).
It all hinges on hoover. Is hoover another term for reese, or for mentasm???
People seem to use hoover to mean mentasm which is where it all goes pear shaped, because a reese clearly sounds more hooveresque.
I have debated this with people before IRL.
There needs to be a Council of Techno Disambiguation.
People seem to use hoover to mean mentasm which is where it all goes pear shaped, because a reese clearly sounds more hooveresque.
I have debated this with people before IRL.
There needs to be a Council of Techno Disambiguation.
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yeah loads of people nicked that sample though he's not alone!
tronik house was him doing ardcore really wasn't it?
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Yeah - I think that's it.
Hoover is the nickname for the sound used in Mentasm (and variations thereof), but people get confused because in pure descriptive terms the name Hoover fits the Reese sound better.
It's interesting how D'n'B has built up this set of codenamed building blocks over the years. Reese, Hoover, Tramen etc.
Has this happened in Dubstep yet? Have any significant Dubstep records sampled other significant Dubstep records?
well, Horsepower - Sholay uses parts from Menta - Snake Charmer..
i have a question, not much to do with nerd cred but i'll ask nonetheless!
I've heard that mainstream and commercial radio stations play different mixes of pop/etc tunes depending on the time of the day. So for instance, they'd have a version of the new britney single which is eq'd with bass rolled off slightly or the high-end boosted a bit which they'd play in the mornings, and a version with the bass boosted which they'd play in the afternoon. I might be getting it the wrong way round, maybe they have their tunes more bassy in the mornings. Apparently the thinking behind it is that people tend to react more favourably to certain frequencies at certain times of the day (or something like that)...
Anyone know anything about this??
I've heard that mainstream and commercial radio stations play different mixes of pop/etc tunes depending on the time of the day. So for instance, they'd have a version of the new britney single which is eq'd with bass rolled off slightly or the high-end boosted a bit which they'd play in the mornings, and a version with the bass boosted which they'd play in the afternoon. I might be getting it the wrong way round, maybe they have their tunes more bassy in the mornings. Apparently the thinking behind it is that people tend to react more favourably to certain frequencies at certain times of the day (or something like that)...
Anyone know anything about this??
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of course ayee... one of the most notorious loops in techno, its kinda asking for it really if you listen to the start
pretty much i guess, cept i dont think you could call 'savage and beyond' hardcore really... 'mental techno' on the flip of 'up tempo' is er...definitely pretty mental, i guess it is hardcore.
kms did a hardcore compilation with manix, blame, terrorize, all these hardcorers that became junglists. He had some foresight that guy.
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Ive got Tronik House's 'Straight Outta Hell' on Network, and the sticker on the front calls it 'Detroit Breakcore'. And there's a 2 bad mice remix...
Don't know what Kevin Saunderson thought of 'ardkore though. The standard opinion seems to be that the original Detroit guys hated it and saw it as a bastardisation of real techno, Derrick May being the most quoted example. (im thinking of Simon Reynolds here)
What I'd like to know is: What other Detroit techno records/producers gave a nod to 'ardkore? I'm sure there must be some.