Poetry

[luka]

I hate it. Just leave it alone or it looks needy if u ask me

 

[luka]

"Just little ol' me!"

 

[Benny Bunter]

I hate it. Just leave it alone or it looks needy if u ask me

Apparently he really resented being reduced down to just being a disabled poet and wanted nothing to do with it. I don't read it as being needy, I think he's being arrogant.

 

[Benny Bunter]

He almost ever mentions his disabilty in all the thousands of poems he did. That line in that one particular poem sticks out for that reason

 

[luka]

I dont want him.there though u dont see me in my poem do u?!! Hello! Its me! Luke!

 

[Benny Bunter]

Like I say, it's a one off, and i don't think its to be read as a just little ol' me thing.

Anyway, who cares? Fucking great poet imo, better than just about everything else in that New American Poetry anthology, which is where I first encountered him.

 

[luka]

Whag else is in there? Ginsburg?

 

[Benny Bunter]

Yeah, there's a whole beat poets section with ginsburg and kerouac etc, i hate it, easily the worst section of the book.

But its got good stuff by olson, dorn, o'hara, levertov, lamantia. It had the projective verse essay.

 

[sus]

I do "astonished air" sometimes eg dolphins leaping into astonished air the one good thing geoffrey hill did, literally the only thing, was burly air. I steal that occasionally

the weathers the weathers they lived in

 

[sus]

Howl is obviously brilliant, that's separate from whether Allen was the village idiot he may have been it doesn't matter there have been few greater synergies of man and moment than Howel

 

[sus]

It establishes the "primitives of a future culture unknown" idea very strongly, it sets man back in nature, it sets modernity back in the Bible, it does it so strongly and viscerally and intuitively that it was written in an afternoon and the first time he read it everybody knew instantly that something important had happened

 

[luka]

Its great

 

[Benny Bunter]

Its fucking awful!

 

[luka]

Makes me want to write

 

[Benny Bunter]

Every time ive started reading it i've just thiught, why am i reading this drivel when i could be reading whitman instead?

Then he does these other ones copying blake and its just cringe, i can't stand him.

 

[luka]

If i read it aloud to u by candlelight u would love it and understand it

 

[luka]

It embeds u in a world, in a mythology, in a lived experience

 

[Benny Bunter]

Im heavily heavily prejudiced against it and kerouacs even worse, don't think i'll ever get over it

 

[luka]

Compare it to what the so called poets r writing now and weep

 

[Benny Bunter]

Im gonna hate read some of it now just to confirm my prejudice