Are pure Garage sounds still being made?
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pretty much yeah.
luka
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id forgotten all about Muggs but then a few years ago he was all over my facebook constantly, im not even frinds with him on facebook but all i could see on facebook was him going on about how all Palestinians should be herded up and killed. it was my first real encounter with what would become the all powerful centrist dads coalition.
Yeah I rate Silkie. Also not post-dubstep in any conceivable sense of the term. There's always been that smoother side to dubstep.
i always feel like I want to get into a debate with muggs defenders or detractors but then it always dawns on me that he's ultimately a PR journo and its not worth it. Like I can't think of any music he's gone on the record about actively disliking. And I know he does dislike things, but can't bight the hand that feeds you i guess. But then he seems to lean into that it's all the same man, which it is but like there are class tensions between even like gabber and mixmag so its not even a road vs intelligent thing fundamentally, it goes deeper than that.
Didn't do himself any favours with this
tbf that one is funny, bit too much of the pub gak before mums sunday roast. he does deny it though, i asked him on twitter.
this may explain why i'm blocked by him on twitter, despite never having any interaction with the man on there or on here.
c'mon joe m8, i loved ur book...
wild greens
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I think the interesting thing about post dubstep or UK bass (before it actually became UK bass) is that it's actually a scene that was invented by a group of 10-15 reasonably eclectic djs who were clearly bored shitless by dubstep and instead mined uk history for their sets.
Easily dismissed now because a lot of the subsequent production was largely shit but the core of the scene was really a load of parties and marginal dj sets grabbing bits of funky, bassline, garage and lost/found 12s that fit into the mythology. This was a novelty to the people who went to these clubs because London had been so boring for at least a year before, unless you were going the grown & sexy house raves that become funky. (I was not).
Much maligned now but the early raves were pretty good. Dem2 butting upto da posse 12s or whatever, it was a good novelty. I was really bored of going to stuff like fwd by then it had turned into bristol
It was only when stereotypical "white boys" actually started making music to fit into the structural idea that it all fell apart.
As for Joe Muggs what else is he meant to do. I feel for all these music journalists in a way because its a terrible career choice, are you meant to be 50 and still pretending to like this dickhead 19 year old playing pentatonic keys in order to get your 1000 words commissioned to put money on the British gas key.
Really it's a poor choice. At least he puts himself out there though I guess. Get a book published blag some money from the pr section of red bull because they want to invent credibility alongside your bmx champs et al
Easily dismissed now because a lot of the subsequent production was largely shit but the core of the scene was really a load of parties and marginal dj sets grabbing bits of funky, bassline, garage and lost/found 12s that fit into the mythology. This was a novelty to the people who went to these clubs because London had been so boring for at least a year before, unless you were going the grown & sexy house raves that become funky. (I was not).
Much maligned now but the early raves were pretty good. Dem2 butting upto da posse 12s or whatever, it was a good novelty. I was really bored of going to stuff like fwd by then it had turned into bristol
It was only when stereotypical "white boys" actually started making music to fit into the structural idea that it all fell apart.
As for Joe Muggs what else is he meant to do. I feel for all these music journalists in a way because its a terrible career choice, are you meant to be 50 and still pretending to like this dickhead 19 year old playing pentatonic keys in order to get your 1000 words commissioned to put money on the British gas key.
Really it's a poor choice. At least he puts himself out there though I guess. Get a book published blag some money from the pr section of red bull because they want to invent credibility alongside your bmx champs et al
did anyone read that interview he did with ibrahim alfa? it's in 2 parts, part 1 here:
www.vice.com
such a strange story, which keeps getting more and more weird. i've read it all at least twice.
Ibrahim Alfa: Buddhist Jailbird, Former Techno Star and Son of an African Dictator's Sidekick (Part 1)
This guy is not your average techno producer.
www.vice.com
such a strange story, which keeps getting more and more weird. i've read it all at least twice.
did anyone read that interview he did with ibrahim alfa? it's in 2 parts, part 1 here:
Ibrahim Alfa: Buddhist Jailbird, Former Techno Star and Son of an African Dictator's Sidekick (Part 1)
This guy is not your average techno producer.
such a strange story, which keeps getting more and more weird. i've read it all at least twice.
tbf best thing hes ever done.