METAL! Discuss

[Immryr]

Anyone Who Likes The Dillinger Escape Plan Is A Faggot

^ suggests not!

 

[vimothy]

^ suggests not!

I was joking.



Anyway, what's false about DT? Fenriz is about as true as you can get.

 

[Immryr]

Fenriz is now a deep house dj.


-edit- i do like darkthrone though.

 

[vimothy]

Fenriz is now a deep house dj.

Mint

 

[STN]

Are darkthrone one of those bands that hold rather unpalatable views, or am I barking up the wrong tree here? I do hope I am.

 

[Grievous Angel]

ah, jim thirlwell, another one of my all-time favs. re: his various foetus releases, all you need are "hole" and "nail," both perfect culminations of his style. some of his other foetus stuff is interesting ("sink" is a collection of OOP singles), but the stuff from the last few years doesn't quite click as well, imho.

Yes but... foetus has very little connection with metal other than as a sort of ironic reference point. "The Quincy Jones of the Avant Garde" had much bigger things on his mind. I mean, sure, live his sound was "rock", but was so ultra-rock (and so high tech) it was utterly beyond anything. He's an industrial artist. And he pisses all over RevCo and Ministry.

I saw him in London in 1990 or something and it was just overwhelming, big venue, huge sellout crowd, fantastic, he opened with Don't Hide It, Provide It, had Norman from Swans on guitar, racks of synths, was wicked. (Saw Ministry in the same era - dull really.)

But bear in mind that the support band was Tackhead (complete with Buckethead doing a cameo slot) with Sherwood destroying the place.

If Tackhead is the support act, the main act ain't metal. By definition.

his side project called wiseblood (w/roli mosimann) is less complex, more like insane industrial biker rock (think: roots of white zombie); his steroid maximum records are cool soundtrack/jazzy sounding (think: raymond scott) and manorexia is more experimental.

Wiseblood were great. The Motorslug 12 was one of the 10 or 20 best records of the 80s.

Manorexia and Steroid Maximus I've always found to be rather dull.

You should also check out the StinkFist project with Lydia Lunch. Mental banging tribal proto techno industrial.

And you really need to check out Swans if you haven't already. I'd start with Cop but you must check out the live album Public Castration Is A Good Idea - it's got a live version of Another You from the ULU show in 1985, which I was at. (I think Eden was there too.) I still haven't recovered. Simply the biggest noise ever.

 

[STN]

Really couldn't get into Stinkfist. LL on the cover was the best thing about it really, but perhaps I should revisit? I had it on a CD with Son of Stink which had silly old Thurston Moore on it...

 

[vimothy]

Are darkthrone one of those bands that hold rather unpalatable views, or am I barking up the wrong tree here? I do hope I am.

They talked a lot of shit when they were young, but are hardly Nazi BM in the mode of Burzum or Graveland or modern stuff like Drudkh.

Deep house dj =/ nazi

 

[STN]

One of them's a schoolteacher now (Darkthrone this is) I'm glad they're not nazis because I quite like them.

 

[vimothy]

One of them's a schoolteacher now (Darkthrone this is) I'm glad they're not nazis because I quite like them.

I guess that would be Ted (Nocturno Culto). Did you see the videos they made for the reissues of their classic trilogy on Peaceville? Fucking pair of geniuses! Transilvanian Hunger is the best metal album of all time, maybe my favourite album ever -- La Monte Young covered by In The Sign of Evil era Sodom.

Have I mentioned before that dubstep = doom metal?

 

[STN]

I guess that would be Ted (Nocturno Culto).

[\QUOTE]

That's the chap, I bet you wouldn't muck around when he was reading the register.

 

[straight]

Have I mentioned before that dubstep = doom metal?

if we're simplifying fractions we can express this as;

horsepower productions
__________________

burzum

= x(amount of people buying the records want you to believe they were listening to them in 2000 instead of squarepusher )

 

[mistersloane]

I saw him in London in 1990 or something and it was just overwhelming, big venue, huge sellout crowd, fantastic, he opened with Don't Hide It, Provide It, had Norman from Swans on guitar, racks of synths, was wicked. (Saw Ministry in the same era - dull really.)

hehe my best mate (female) dragged a pretty skinny boy by the hair into the toilets and raped him that night. I apologise on her behalf if it was you.

Ministry were amazing on acid though.

 

[vimothy]

if we're simplifying fractions we can express this as;

horsepower productions
__________________

burzum

= x(amount of people buying the records want you to believe they were listening to them in 2000 instead of squarepusher )

^^ math rock

 

[Grievous Angel]

hehe my best mate (female) dragged a pretty skinny boy by the hair into the toilets and raped him that night. I apologise on her behalf if it was you.

Pretty, yes, skinny, yes, but always able to fend off the female attention. You get used to it after a while.

Ministry were amazing on acid though.

Well, they're better than revco, who are probably better than Nitzer Ebb, who are from Chelmsford.

Kinda spoils the goth mystique when you know that...

 

[Mr. Tea]

Ministry were amazing on acid though.

Lots of things are amazing on acid, though. I've never seen Ministry live but I *heart* them to bits, so I'd rather hope they were amazing on nothing more mind-bending than a couple of pints of overpriced Carling.

 

[Leo]

Yes but... foetus has very little connection with metal other than as a sort of ironic reference point. "The Quincy Jones of the Avant Garde" had much bigger things on his mind...

yup, with you on all of the above, GV. didn't mean to say he was metal, think his name was brough up by someone else (and LUV that quincy jones reference, v. true!)

at the risk of sounding like a dick ...i saw the foetus gig at cbgb that later surfaced as the "male" video and yes, total sensory overload with strobes, smoke and OTT music.

AND i saw swans twice: once in 1983 at the "speed trials" fest at the old white columns gallery (the loudest, sweatiest, most brutal metal bashing, actually a bit scary) and later (circa "the burning world") at cb's when they first went semi-acoustic. remember lee renaldo opened, had just released his "from here to infinity" album and he and a sidekick did 20 minutes noise.

 

[mistersloane]

Never saw SWANS in their ear-bleeding phase but post-Burning World saw them alot, they were absolutely blinding. I missed Glenn Branca's 100 guitar thing this time round, but similarly he's been great live when I caught it. I love that symphonic guitar shit.

 

[matt b]

Well, they're better than revco, who are probably better than Nitzer Ebb, who are from Chelmsford.

Kinda spoils the goth mystique when you know that...

don't forget- w.yorkshire is still the home of true goth:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/7204543.stm

 

[Mr. Tea]

I sent that link to my girlfriend, whose response was "Do you think he takes her for walks in the park so she can poo behind a tree?".

Should have mentioned this the other day when this whole place was poo mad...