Painting

[mvuent]

We don't seek realism in a van gogh painting, for example, but then again, on some level do we? We seek a sense of a real world transmuted into paint... Or a real emotional reaction. Everything about kinkade's paintings seems fake

i think they capture something "real" (in an emotional or imaginal sense) about the suburbs. in the area where i grew up, you'd never see an actual kinkade painting on someone's wall, the neighbors are mostly too liberal and tasteful for that, but when you go on a walk, his works feel like a kind of dream hovering over the houses and yards and parks (particularly the older ones), exerting gravitational force on them, and on your perception of them. the platonic ideal, even if not consciously realized.

very much feel the same uneasiness about the blank light beyond the windows in his paintings that comes up in both the medium article and the didion quote. but the way the medium writer concludes that they're terrifying depictions of apocalypse feels glib and reductive. that sort of concealed intensity could have positive or negative connotations, possibly both.

 

[Corpsey]

 

[Corpsey]

 

[Corpsey]

 

[hmg]

 

[kid charlemagne]

Playboy: We began this discussion of your movie by comparing filmmakers to painters. Were you as interested in painting as in, say, rock music when you were growing up?

Dylan: Yeah, I've always painted. I've always held on to that one way or another.

Playboy: Do you feel you use your colors in the same way you use notes or chords?

Dylan: Oh, yeah. There's much information you could get on the meaning of colors. Every color has a certain mood and feeling. For instance, red is a very vital color. There's a lot of reds in this movie, and a lot of blue. A lot of cobalt blue.

Playboy: Why cobalt blue

Dylan: It's the color of dissension.

Playboy: Did you study painting?

Dylan: A lot of ideas I have were influenced by an old man who had definite ideas on life and the universe and nature-- all that matters.

 

[luka]

I can see why someone wouldnt like this but there are a few interesting things going on

The way the smoke, the clouds, the water, the snow in the mountain all echo each other, and the smoke/clouds seem to blend into the atmosphere, so you get a sense of this cycle of vapor and condensation

Jack Vettriano: ‘His paintings are like a double cheeseburger in a greasy wrapper’

The Scot painted singing butlers, ‘broads’ in bras and tough guys in suits, in works critics found lurid, chintzy, devoid of irony and often sexist. But they were also hugely popular – showing the power of ‘I get it’ art

www.theguardian.com

 

[version]

Brueghel painting stolen from Poland in 1974 found in local Dutch museum

Art detective and magazine help crack case of Flemish masterpiece thought to have been stolen by Polish agents

www.theguardian.com

 

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Dylan: A lot of ideas I have were influenced by an old man who had definite ideas on life and the universe and nature-- all that matters.

That old man? LeBron James.

 

[IdleRich]

Pretty magical I think.

 

[IdleRich]

Probably more of a drawing but whatever...



Klimt when he was a teenager.

 

[Corpsey]

Not worth a new thread really, for some reason I can't remember (even though it must have happened about 10 minutes ago) I've been reading about and looking at the work of courtroom artists.

Taylor Swift's court sketch: A misunderstood art

Court sketches of Taylor Swift have attracted mockery online - but there's a lot more to the job than just sketching a likeness.

www.bbc.co.uk

Bill Robles is quite good

Presumably Daumier is the most illustrious courtroom artist (although this example can't be a sketch)

 

[GhostofKinski]

Churchill painted too, of course - taught by Walter Sickert

I buried a hooker in that grove.

 

[luka]

Deep ripper lore

 

[Corpsey]

 

[luka]

Wtf lol do u like little girlz?

 

[Corpsey]

Everybody knows about this one, ofc, at least in a tea towel form.

I've always (glancing at it) thought it was a quite ugly painting that I passed over quickly but the more I read about it the more impressed I am by the deliberate awkwardness and sketchiness of it, the confrontational (at the time) use of a nude who isn't a goddess, but (probably) a whore (using that word advisedly), the allusions to giorgione/titian and raphael but also to cheap postcards, the lack of communication between the figures, all looking in different directions. All in all an extremely forward thinking painting that also features two unforgettable faces.

A book I'm reading about Manet says that it should also be understood in context of a vogue for “la blague” — laughing and jeering at grandeur/holiness/majesty/poetry (the pomposity of the official Salon art and Napoleon III's bourgousie refashioning of France). I didn't know that Manet was close friends with Baudelaire.

Baudelaire apparently features in this painting, on the left, along with Manet himself. This was a fashionable spot in Paris 'The Tuileries', where Manet shot the shit with Baudz and Degas among many others.

Anyway, this is another painting that I've found quite ugly, which it is, but its also quite startling when you start looking at it closely and consider how strange this must have looked to contemporaries/sceptics of Manet who were used to the most highly polished paintings such as

 

[shiels]

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Who is this and tell us why you love it

 

[Corpsey]

Caspar Friedrich — i like the gloomy drama of the clouds, but balanced uncannily with a sense of (easy to slip into pretension but i know he was a religious artist and also there's that church) the sun repelling the darkness, it'a weirdly dramatic sky, perhaps a religious symbol.. blahhhh i'm going to stop but it is definitely an uncanny painting and in fact an uncanny effect we've probably all seen ourselves in nature

But ofc all of these things might occur to you if you're asked but really what makes a painting work for you is if you like how they've combined light/colour/space/versimilitude... The manet painting is something different perhaps. This is a 'modern'/modernist thing, art that appears ugly or incomprehensible to the eye (unlike friedrich).

 

[woops]

@Corpsey have you been to the Musée d'Orsay? you could get the Eurostar there and back and see it in one day