Politicians you trust/admire/respect etc
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you're not a party member are you oliver?
being half jewish does not make one cool, cf nicholas sarkozy
i think i ought to post some pics really. here is skinner chastising someone or other
are we limiting this to politicians who are alive? cause i'm running out of people that don't make my skin crawl...
being half jewish does not make one cool, cf nicholas sarkozy
i think i ought to post some pics really. here is skinner chastising someone or other
are we limiting this to politicians who are alive? cause i'm running out of people that don't make my skin crawl...
craner
Beast of Burden
My grandparents were Welsh Tories.
I don't belong in political parties to be honest.
My reasons for joining Labour were convoluted and may be mistaken.
Oona's views are, actually, fairly unastounding, common sense, etc. ...
a half-Jewess who's nastier about Shamir than Arafat...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,975423,00.html
I don't belong in political parties to be honest.
My reasons for joining Labour were convoluted and may be mistaken.
Oona's views are, actually, fairly unastounding, common sense, etc. ...
a half-Jewess who's nastier about Shamir than Arafat...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,975423,00.html
actually my grandparents were CPGB but joined labour about 30 years ago when they moved to cumbria and found there weren't many supporters of 'actually exisiting socialism' up there....i once asked why it was this and not, say, the prague spring that made them leave....
that article does make her sound eminently sensible...thankfully not living in bethnal green i don't have to choose between her and a protest vote for someone i find abhorrent
there's a trot councillor in lewisham who is standing. hmmm
that article does make her sound eminently sensible...thankfully not living in bethnal green i don't have to choose between her and a protest vote for someone i find abhorrent
there's a trot councillor in lewisham who is standing. hmmm
Randy Watson
Well-known member
If you like Oona, Craner, try and get to meet her Dad. Preston King is a professor of political philosophy and one of the most impressive people I have had the pleasure to have met. A very cool future father-in-law 
sufi
lala
baddies ?
personally these 2 fuckwits really make me vexed
Isaias & Meles
President of Eritrea & PM of Ethiopia
Their socialist liberation fronts fought against occupation of Eritrea by the Ethiopian Derg Dictatorship, which was overthrown & Eritrea was liberated. I was a firm supporter.
When the 2, former firm friends and staunch political & military allies, became big bosses they soon began a war over an insignificant sliver of territory on the edge of newly independent Eritrea. The war has claimed tens of thousands of lives in set-piece trench warfare without any territorial gain, and has defied resolution (tho recent news is positive in that there has been no further escalation recently)
They've also started repressing their own people, destroyed press freedom, fighting with secessionists, playing the ethnic card...
Fucking gutted,10 years ago the situation looked really positive, even the americans were playing a constructive part building regional alliances, but now that situation is shit
Caption: Left: Even now Shabia(occupation) Right: Our Challenge is a Mass Challenge
the Massawa Road
personally these 2 fuckwits really make me vexed
Isaias & Meles
President of Eritrea & PM of Ethiopia
Their socialist liberation fronts fought against occupation of Eritrea by the Ethiopian Derg Dictatorship, which was overthrown & Eritrea was liberated. I was a firm supporter.
When the 2, former firm friends and staunch political & military allies, became big bosses they soon began a war over an insignificant sliver of territory on the edge of newly independent Eritrea. The war has claimed tens of thousands of lives in set-piece trench warfare without any territorial gain, and has defied resolution (tho recent news is positive in that there has been no further escalation recently)
They've also started repressing their own people, destroyed press freedom, fighting with secessionists, playing the ethnic card...
Fucking gutted,10 years ago the situation looked really positive, even the americans were playing a constructive part building regional alliances, but now that situation is shit
Caption: Left: Even now Shabia(occupation) Right: Our Challenge is a Mass Challenge
the Massawa Road
good art, but shit politics
scottdisco
rip this joint please
politicians etc
hello first time poster so might cock it up.
can i just say Backjob's fart gas anecdote is brilliant?
in the first category, ones to if not admire at least look on fondly/uncritically i have to say my favourite Kenyatta anecdote is when he was attending the 1945 Sixth Pan-African Congress in Manchester with the likes of Nkrumah and one local food and drink magazine editor (i'm from there myself) has always maintained that Kenyatta lived in the city for a while, selling fast food, and he sold 'Jomo-burgers'.
surely complete cobblers of course but i'd like to believe (i know he lived in the UK).
speaking of contemporaries Illinois Democrat Barack Obama is quite interesting, currently the only African-American state senator. a man of Christian faith i was reading his pre-election bumf and it was all fairly solidly progressive, quite good stuff.
what's interesting about how fairly skewed the debate about Israel and the Palestinians is in the USA is that even Obama - quite a darling of the moderate liberal-left in the USA, AFAIK, etc. - even he, his only leaflet comments on Israel just extended to a show of support for those targeted by suicide bombers. all good common sense and reasonable of course but not a peep about any legitimiate grievances the 'average' Palestinian in a camp, say, might have.
he ran against Alan Keyes, a candidate parachuted into Illinois after a sex scandal (brilliantly, involving the woman who plays Seven of Nine on 'Star Trek', the actress Jeri Ryan, Jack Ryan's now ex-wife) forced the Republican Jack Ryan to bow out, and apparently this was the first time a state senate seat was contested by two African-American candidates (from the two main Yank parties).
i'm pretty sure Keyes lost his chips when he made some immoderate comments at one stage about Nazis, Jews, etc.
as for Oona King, the whole Eid mubarak cock-up was an eye-opener.
er and as for the other category, it seems, i dunno, a bit, er, not pointless but i just don't know, to finger a political figure from a country that ain't either a democracy or currently free from turmoil/etc. ('nuff respect to Sufi for their answer above) so i'll go with another Yank for the hell of it.
incoming Oklahoma senator Tom Coburn.
he's the chap who quite charmingly advocates capital punishment for abortion physicians [i'm not a huge fan of the other Okie senator, another Republican called James Inhofe, not least for some fairly dumb things he's said re. the Abu Ghraib scandal].
i suppose slagging off right-wing American senators from the Bible-Belt is too easy and showcases my snobbery but heck...
hello first time poster so might cock it up.
can i just say Backjob's fart gas anecdote is brilliant?
in the first category, ones to if not admire at least look on fondly/uncritically i have to say my favourite Kenyatta anecdote is when he was attending the 1945 Sixth Pan-African Congress in Manchester with the likes of Nkrumah and one local food and drink magazine editor (i'm from there myself) has always maintained that Kenyatta lived in the city for a while, selling fast food, and he sold 'Jomo-burgers'.
surely complete cobblers of course but i'd like to believe (i know he lived in the UK).
speaking of contemporaries Illinois Democrat Barack Obama is quite interesting, currently the only African-American state senator. a man of Christian faith i was reading his pre-election bumf and it was all fairly solidly progressive, quite good stuff.
what's interesting about how fairly skewed the debate about Israel and the Palestinians is in the USA is that even Obama - quite a darling of the moderate liberal-left in the USA, AFAIK, etc. - even he, his only leaflet comments on Israel just extended to a show of support for those targeted by suicide bombers. all good common sense and reasonable of course but not a peep about any legitimiate grievances the 'average' Palestinian in a camp, say, might have.
he ran against Alan Keyes, a candidate parachuted into Illinois after a sex scandal (brilliantly, involving the woman who plays Seven of Nine on 'Star Trek', the actress Jeri Ryan, Jack Ryan's now ex-wife) forced the Republican Jack Ryan to bow out, and apparently this was the first time a state senate seat was contested by two African-American candidates (from the two main Yank parties).
i'm pretty sure Keyes lost his chips when he made some immoderate comments at one stage about Nazis, Jews, etc.
as for Oona King, the whole Eid mubarak cock-up was an eye-opener.
er and as for the other category, it seems, i dunno, a bit, er, not pointless but i just don't know, to finger a political figure from a country that ain't either a democracy or currently free from turmoil/etc. ('nuff respect to Sufi for their answer above) so i'll go with another Yank for the hell of it.
incoming Oklahoma senator Tom Coburn.
he's the chap who quite charmingly advocates capital punishment for abortion physicians [i'm not a huge fan of the other Okie senator, another Republican called James Inhofe, not least for some fairly dumb things he's said re. the Abu Ghraib scandal].
i suppose slagging off right-wing American senators from the Bible-Belt is too easy and showcases my snobbery but heck...
scottdisco
rip this joint please
cheers mate
sorry to be sentimental and you'll think i'm bollocksing you but i really have missed you...
P.S.
there's a lot of really bloody smart people on this message board - some good stuff on all sides in the American power debate.
P.P.S.
well, of course, when i say all sides i mean Craner versus everyone else...
sorry to be sentimental and you'll think i'm bollocksing you but i really have missed you...
P.S.
there's a lot of really bloody smart people on this message board - some good stuff on all sides in the American power debate.
P.P.S.
well, of course, when i say all sides i mean Craner versus everyone else...
sufi
lala
welcome scottie!
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Jomo 'Burning Spear' Kenyatta
Uhuru
well, according to my kikuyu homies it was Uhuru Kenyatta , Mzee Jomo's son, who was running a restaurant in manc before being hurried back to Kenya as a Moi KANU stooge ...
Jomo 'Burning Spear' Kenyatta
Uhuru
