Woebot
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i have a vl tone which has some nice sounds. that's fun. people hack them don't they? always wanted one when i was a kid......
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i have a vl tone which has some nice sounds. that's fun. people hack them don't they? always wanted one when i was a kid......
Woebot
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that is such a cool thing that.
little video for people who haven't seen it:
we should just have a toy synth thread and be done with it
I love this web page. It's like a proper home page when people used to do that but with lots of really good information. And a great shtudio.
http://durftal.com/music/edmx/dmxstudio/studio.htm
Benny Bunter
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Cheers. I dont have the novation 37sl though and I take it that if I got a novation bass station (or any other midi controller) it would need a totally different template right? Are there lots of readymade templates that people have made out there to download or would have I have to make my own for the controller that I had? Cause that would probably a bit of a ballache for me to do, being a noob. I'll bet the oberheim sounds great though.
tbh I'm still leaning towards a brand new all in one synth. Hopefully I'll be getting a go on the microkorg and the alesis micron tomorrow so I'll see then. Can't wait! Its all very exciting
connect_icut
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I haven't really researched this but I'd guess Max/MSP would make it pretty easy to map any given MIDI controller to any given hardware synth.
Woebot
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yeah you couldn't do it with the bass station as you have no way to programme what sysex messages it sends. although to be honest just having a bass station and a matrix 1000 would be fun. there aren't any templates for the matrix 1000 apart from mine.
have fun on those synths!
Woebot
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i'm sure you're right. quite some skill-set though! certainly beyond me......
You can do that sort of mapping stuff with something like MIDIOX (far simpler than MAX) as well but that's all introducing extraneous elements, like a computer.
What MIDI controller do you have BB? Maybe it can be programmed anyway, but not all of them do SYSEX which I think is what would be needed for the Matrix for instance.
Anyway from everything you've said it sounds like you really want something self-contained and immediately playable...
What MIDI controller do you have BB? Maybe it can be programmed anyway, but not all of them do SYSEX which I think is what would be needed for the Matrix for instance.
Anyway from everything you've said it sounds like you really want something self-contained and immediately playable...
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connect_icut
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No, I honestly think it would be really, really easy. It wouldn't require any deep Max skills at all, just an extremely basic grasp of the programming interface and two, maybe three objects. Massrock is right, though, introducing the computer as a "middleman" would make connecting it all up a bit of a pain in the ass.
Benny Bunter
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Personally I'm pretty clueless about midi in general but my pal who I've started producing with uses Max msp (we've got Max for Live which is fantastic btw) so it would be possible I suppose. I've got him looking into it at the moment but it would mean him investing a load of time and effort and I'm not sure he can be arsed!
Had a go on the microkorg but there was also the microkorg XL there which was £50 quid more but is miles easier to program and has a better LED display (and it sounded great I must say). If I went down the microkorg route I would probably save a bit more and get that instead. Had a quick go on the alesis micron too but it didn't really seem like the sort of thing I could start using right away in the shop, whereas the microkorg xl seemed ridiculously easy to use. d :slanted:
But THEN there's also the Korg R3 which is nearer to £500 brand new, but I might be able to bag a 2nd hand one for a good price. :slanted:
Got my eye on one or two things already so I'm gonna ruminate for a while and keep my eye out for bargains. I want a synth NOW though!
Had a go on the microkorg but there was also the microkorg XL there which was £50 quid more but is miles easier to program and has a better LED display (and it sounded great I must say). If I went down the microkorg route I would probably save a bit more and get that instead. Had a quick go on the alesis micron too but it didn't really seem like the sort of thing I could start using right away in the shop, whereas the microkorg xl seemed ridiculously easy to use. d :slanted:
But THEN there's also the Korg R3 which is nearer to £500 brand new, but I might be able to bag a 2nd hand one for a good price. :slanted:
Got my eye on one or two things already so I'm gonna ruminate for a while and keep my eye out for bargains. I want a synth NOW though!
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Benny Bunter
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All I have is a shitty old Roland keyboard controller (no Knobs) and a M-Audio X-session pro which I use for djing with. Not great then...
connect_icut
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I haven't tried it but I suspect that, for anyone with even rudimentary Max experience, mapping MIDI values from one piece of hardware to another would be a piece of piss and take about five minutes. I think you'd just need a bunch of midiin and midout objects (maybe going through zmap or scale objects to scale the controller values if you needed to).
nomos
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Same here, but learning. I started a Stupid MIDI questions thread a little while ago, if anyone needs it. Must tip my hat to massrock for being very helpful and patient
If it's Sysex messages you're dealing with it can be a bit more intensive, they're more or less non-standard by definition. I made a controller map for a synth that uses Sysex and it involved 'several' hours of tedious data entry.
Once it's done it's done though I spose.Good call on the MKXL Benny, when I saw the price difference I was gonna mention it, twice the voices as well I think. BTW I see loads of the older Novations on ebay. Been intrigued by the Nova, seems pretty good for the prices they go for now.
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So what happened with that nomos? The ESQ-M blew up but you got something else? I like those Ensoniqs, can still be had for ridiculously low prices.
the one ensoniq i'm really lusting after is the eps-16 sampler - pretty much responsible for 90s glitch (think early authecre, fennesz ca instrument/hotel paral.el, loop finding jazz records etcetc) AND the early rza sound. but those ensoniq reliability issues put me off somewhat
CHAOTROPIC
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I can beat that for pure luck! Moved house a couple of years ago & found a perfect Ensoniq SQ-80 in the cellar
Still use it. Amazing analogue filter, polyphonic aftertouch & beautifully ragged 8-bit digital waveforms. My favourite synth, I think.This guy's youtube channel is great for synth porn.
He's some Polish teenager with about a million old analogue synths & gets some amazing noises out of them. Does his videos with analogue editing gear too & records on VHS. Here's his test of the Ensoniq ESQ-1.