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bassnation

the abyss
lowest form said:
there's a bit of a sycophantic interview I did with Photek here: http://www.spannered.org/music/735/ but it is interesting because we talked a lot about the reduction of jungle to mindless rave music, which by the sounds of it he's succumbed to, in a more up to date way. I don't really know, I haven't heard any of his music since the relaunch of his label (the bleep tune, etc).

Source Direct; Secret Liaisons... probably in my top 10 tunes ever.
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that phrase - "mindless rave music" - well, the average rave tune had more ideas and originality in it than a decade of dnb releases, no offence like. they are still rinsing out tired old rave ideas without a clue on how to integrate them properly still. the day they renamed jungle to dnb was where the rot set in.
 
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mms

sometimes
bassnation said:
that phrase - "mindless rave music" - well, the average rave tune had more ideas and originality in it than a decade of dnb releases, no offence like. they are still rinsing out tired old rave ideas without a clue on how to integrate them properly still. the day they renamed jungle to dnb was where the rot set in.
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there as also a hell of alot of shite too, i don't buy into the idea that one is better than the other, as they're different, it's a matter of aesthetics and what people were attempting to actually do with the music.
But rave esp as things got really fast, towards the end... rather like d and b or dubstep nowdays it got crapper imo, but d and b is well managed big business so there is financial impetus to carry it on way past the time it's crucial.
 
Slothrop

Slothrop

Tight but Polite
mms said:
But rave esp as things got really fast, towards the end... rather like d and b or dubstep nowdays it got crapper imo, but d and b is well managed big business so there is financial impetus to carry it on way past the time it's crucial.
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It's kind of found a niche as either angry music for teens who are a bit too urban for punk (with the harder stuff) or as sophisticated going out music for twenty-somethings who are too urban for house (with the liquid stuff). And it seems to be doing both of these things pretty well and it's probably moving forward in its own way, but yeah, it's definitely not the same thing that it was 15 years ago...
 
subvert47

subvert47

I don't fight, I run away
Ory said:
Ah, who could forget. The always pleasant MAH's comment that it was a "loose interpretation" of jungle. Understatement of the year.

And F&F 2... what was he thinking? "Love & War" is one of the most horribly... horrible tunes I've ever had the displeasure of hearing.
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F&F2 is now in the bargain bins for £3
I thought about buying it, but decided it was too expensive
 
Alfons

Alfons

Way of the future
mms said:
d and b is well managed big business so there is financial impetus to carry it on way past the time it's crucial.
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well managed is a phrase I wouldn't really use about dnb, but it definitely has found its own niche and place in the market.
 
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Tanadan

likes things
Does everybody know that Photek did stuff as Origination in 92/93? (along with another guy - check discogs for more info) Two good ones:




Was this big back in the day, anybody that remembers?
 
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Beast of Burden
This is the Photek track I've always loved the most: I suspect that that tingly breakdown is the greatest thing he's ever done
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
Blackdown said:
you know that quote from Burial when he said how upset he was when he realised Photek was Rupert from East Anglia ;)...
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wasn't it also like - it took away all the mystery from, the vibe from Photek's tunes - like actually learning all his studio tricks kind of took away that aura of something greater than the sum of its parts...btw Blackdown, belatedly, that was a fantastic interview, fine work...
 
subvert47

subvert47

I don't fight, I run away
Tanadan said:
Does everybody know that Photek did stuff as Origination in 92/93? (along with another guy - check discogs for more info)
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that other guy was Rob Solomon who did most of the Origination stuff

he also recorded as Lexis and Universal, and had an LP due to come out on Certificate 18 before it folded

then I think he packed it in :(
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Got a copy of the Masters series EP with 'Pulse of Life' on it in Rooted on Saturday. Love that tune so much but the rest of the EP really fits into the 'middlebrow shallows' or whatever that Reynolds talks about in Energy Flash - fussy and 'jazzy' and a bit flimsy.
 
subvert47

subvert47

I don't fight, I run away
Corpsey said:
Got a copy of the Masters series EP with 'Pulse of Life' on it in Rooted on Saturday. Love that tune so much but the rest of the EP really fits into the 'middlebrow shallows' or whatever that Reynolds talks about in Energy Flash - fussy and 'jazzy' and a bit flimsy.
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loungecore ;)
 
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droid

Guest
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padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
Corpsey said:
Got a copy of the Masters series EP with 'Pulse of Life' on it in Rooted on Saturday. Love that tune so much but the rest of the EP really fits into the 'middlebrow shallows' or whatever that Reynolds talks about in Energy Flash - fussy and 'jazzy' and a bit flimsy.
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it's funny too cos even tho Photek sometimes operated in the same territory I don't feel like any of his works fits into that kind of Rhodes-y, fuzak jungle lite thing, or at least they transcended it...even his stuff as The Sentinel (which includes "Pulse of Life") or Aquarius - "Dolphin Tune" is a total killer...actually I can't stand later Good Looking but they really had a good run there at the beginning; "Aquarius", "Bell Tune", that gorgeous Chameleon 12"...back when the tunes still had some bite to go with all that dreamy atmosphere...

the interviews tho...cripes...Prancehall had that thing a year or two ago where he posted an old Photek interview (I think the same one Droid posted) & a much more recent one - maybe from the early 00s - it's like night & day. I'm not an expert on English accents - but - the difference is obvious even still, the vaguely scruffy Cockney thing has given way to Rupert from St. Albans or whatever...
 
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Bang Diddley

Well-known member
padraig (u.s.) said:
it's funny too cos even tho Photek sometimes operated in the same territory I don't feel like any of his works fits into that kind of Rhodes-y, fuzak jungle lite thing, or at least they transcended it...even his stuff as The Sentinel (which includes "Pulse of Life") or Aquarius - "Dolphin Tune" is a total killer...actually I can't stand later Good Looking but they really had a good run there at the beginning; "Aquarius", "Bell Tune", that gorgeous Chameleon 12"...back when the tunes still had some bite to go with all that dreamy atmosphere...
the interviews tho...cripes...Prancehall had that thing a year or two ago where he posted an old Photek interview (I think the same one Droid posted) & a much more recent one - maybe from the early 00s - it's like night & day. I'm not an expert on English accents - but - the difference is obvious even still, the vaguely scruffy Cockney thing has given way to Rupert from St. Albans or whatever...
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This tune, its not hard hitting or anything but that vocal sample/treatment that comes made my kness weak the first time i heard it

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