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don_quixote

Trent End
tom lea said:
yeah, aldridge is a horrible inbred cunt. didnt he point right in laws' face and laugh?

it was barry ferguson what done it, apparently. pretty low, but i can't help remembering arsenal fans justifying this when it happened, which is just as bad really. and then there's obviously this. they've always been shitty winners under wenger.
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not as bad as you made out, but still absolutely appalling. at least barry ferguson's could be claimed to be opportunist since he was running past anyway, this was some prick who thought "oh i won't celebrate with my teammates, i'll go and pile the misery on the poor sod who just scored the own goal". see john barnes with the dignified reaction.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
mrfaucet said:
Sending off was a bit of a joke, but Barca were just on a whole other level, again. Best club team ever surely.
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Weird - no atmosphere oin the pub I was in. I don't believe the line that Arsenal were closer to Barca than last year. Just not true. 19 shots to 0 tells its own story. And the final ball was the same loads of times, that slide rule pass behind the defence, that caught Arsenal out almost every single time.

No-one attempts to pass the ball in the way Barca do - those little triangles are like playground stuff, as Xavi said with his 'piggy' comment in the Guardian interview. It is an oft-used cliche, but in this case it really IS like they're playing another game, based on playground football or five-a-side.

The sending-off ruined it in a way, but...

ANother thing that was crystal clear - those Barca players are STRONG in the tackle and 50-50. Don't think that's commented on enough.
 
bandshell

bandshell

Grand High Witch
Unfortunately, I didn't catch the game. Managed to see some highlights though.

Messi's goal >>

Barca looked on form.

Says a lot that even the goal against Barca was scored by Barca. :p
 
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paolo

Mechanical phantoms
mrfaucet said:
Sending off was a bit of a joke, but Barca were just on a whole other level, again. Best club team ever surely.
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That's what people say, but remember Inter last year. They don't like it up em, won't fancy it on a wet Wednesday in Milan, etc etc
 
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BareBones

wheezy
arsenal were utterly humiliated, even before the comedy sending off. barcelona seem to really enjoy taking them to bits. that must have been one of the easiest games they've had all season, it was horrible to watch. messi's goal though, jaysus. that was playground stuff. but as unfathomably great as barca are, they do have some complete dicks in their team, which stops me from actually liking them properly *cough* dani alves *cough cough*
 
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tom lea

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thing is, you never know, do you? arsenal got a lucky break with their goal (but then, so did barca with their opener - terrible defending on both counts) but they looked like they might be back into it until the sending off. was he even offside?

the ref was in awe of barca from the start, it was pathetic. let's not forget van persie's first booking was a dive from alves.

arsenal were their own worst enemy - i lost count of the amount of times they tried to play it out of defence and lost it, and it's not a coincidence that their best chance came from a long ball to bendtner, who genuinely could've caused barca's second string centre-backs some problems if they'd actually got the ball to him - but they deserved the chance to play 11 vs 11 in the second half and were totally robbed of it. really feel for them.
 
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BareBones

wheezy
i wouldn't say barca's first goal was lucky, they had already had like at least 10 attempts before then and had been cutting arsenal open with ease since the kick-off. it was a miracle they hadn't already scored, and it was just an unreal piece of skill by messi. Van persie's first booking was for a pathetic little bitchslap in alves's face after getting himself needlessly worked up, and yeah alves is a cunt and made a meal of it, but then most players would, and that's always gonna be a booking in the champions league. i dunno. the sending off was definitely a joke, and coming so soon after the own goal was a real body blow, but it just seems like a whimsical daydream to think that they had a chance with RVP on the pitch, it was total men-against-boys stuff all game, they were just outclassed in every position. agreed the ref seemed overawed, but then so did the whole arsenal team.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Check out Donetsk's 2nd - one of the best placement goals I've seen - pure Thierry Henry.

Didn't see the game, so don't know how dangerous Donetsk are overall, but they are certainly potent attacking-wise. No-one's gonna want that trip tot he Ukraine, even Barca.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
BareBones said:
i wouldn't say barca's first goal was lucky, they had already had like at least 10 attempts before then and had been cutting arsenal open with ease since the kick-off. it was a miracle they hadn't already scored, and it was just an unreal piece of skill by messi. Van persie's first booking was for a pathetic little bitchslap in alves's face after getting himself needlessly worked up, and yeah alves is a cunt and made a meal of it, but then most players would, and that's always gonna be a booking in the champions league. i dunno. the sending off was definitely a joke, and coming so soon after the own goal was a real body blow, but it just seems like a whimsical daydream to think that they had a chance with RVP on the pitch, it was total men-against-boys stuff all game, they were just outclassed in every position. agreed the ref seemed overawed, but then so did the whole arsenal team.
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Couldn't agree more in spirit, BUT, had Bendtner been any good (or had it fallen to van Persie) that one Arsenal chance might well have gone away. Arsenal got destroyed, but Barca weren't as clinical as they could have been, leaving it to win by only one goal (when in playing terms, they were 3 better, I'd say)

Ref-e-ree! :El País was moved to dredge up some of the referee's previous, noting that Massimo Busacca had refereed the 2009 Champions League final between Barcelona and Manchester United but had then found himself in hot water in September of that year for making an obscene gesture at fans during a match between FC Baden and Young Boys. He was also accused of being captured on video urinating on the pitch during a match in Qatar, an accusation he strongly denied.
 
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tom lea

Well-known member
BareBones said:
i wouldn't say barca's first goal was lucky
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well nine times out of ten your captain clears the ball rather than gives it straight to the opposition. like how nine times out of ten busquets doesn't head the ball in his own net at the other end. both teams' goals were pretty lucky in that regard.

two out of the last three times they've played barca they've been a lot better in the second half. who's to say it wouldn't have happened again? there's a good chance barca would have dicked them, but it's a real shame that due to the referee being such a cunt we'll never know.
 
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BareBones

wheezy
tom lea said:
well nine times out of ten your captain clears the ball rather than gives it straight to the opposition.
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not in that match though, they were giving the ball away around their own box all match! that one was just the worst of a bad bunch, cos it was a crappy backheel and obviously lead to the goal. but yeah you're right, they were only ever one goal out of it and with van persie on could quite easily have converted that move that bendtner fucked up at the end. hugely, hugely unlikely, but not impossible.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Congrats to Spurs. Saw v little of the match, but it looks like they withstood a fair to moderate battering from Milan. If they have a favourable draw, then the semis could beckon. However, with Barca, Real, Man U and Chelsea still in, looks kinda tough for them to get to the final...
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

IdleRich
I didn't see the Arse/Barce game but, it's been said here before, if you attack the whole time then you're gonna score, if the actual goal itself is lucky it tends to cancel out an unlucky miss or two that nobody remembers the next day.
Sending off does sound ridiculous though and if you're Arsenal and you were ahead in the tie at the time then you do have every right to wonder what might have been.
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

IdleRich
I remember that Coventry free-kick (well obviously not from the time, I'm not that old) and I understand that afterwards there was a lot of debate about whether the referee should have allowed it. To my mind the guy who takes it touches it with both feet so that's two touches before anyone else which is obviously against the rules - hence there was no rash of copycat goals or attempts. The other one only uses one foot so maybe that's ok - I mean, he kind of scoops it in a long continuous touch which some people might not like but I don't think anyone would complain if someone took a free-kick like that at any other part of the pitch.
Edit - actually having watched it again I think they would. He lifts it right up off the ground before flicking it over his head, surely not allowed.
 
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