There may be some truth to this in some instances.they see that I'm black and immediatly assume that I'm under them.
if this isn't grounds for banning someone i really don't know what is.
please take this elsewhere.
but at the same time, as Noel and Tea's response to the offensive post testifies, Jaie's comments are indeed based on certain realities. and i think they are worth while -- at least to me, someone who is thinking about emigrating to the UK soon-ish, to read about, albeit from a very limited and subjective point of view, dynamics between certain classes and ethnic groups and such.
God, there's nothing redeeming about that post at all, and the fact that people are defending THAT (and taking many of Jaie's other posts with a grain of salt) while simultaneously criticizing much, much lesser 'offenses' in other threads is totally bewildering to me.
I should add that I wasn't trying to defend Jaie's entire post - he was, after all, tarring whole ethnic and national groups with a single sweep of the brush, which is almost a definition of racism - I was just saying that it's certainly not unheard of for people from eastern Europe to have, shall we say, less than fraternal attitudes towards black and Asian people.
Are you accusing me of something here?I'm not trying to dictate anybody's response at all, just expressing genuine surprise that a lot of people seem unplussed by some of the things said in this and other posts by the same individual. I'm allowed to express shock at seemingly casual racism, ain't I?
Telling of what exactly, do you think?The fact that he received any reasonable responses at all to his posts beyond "Honestly, shut up" is somewhat telling.
Are you accusing me of something here?
Not meaning to butt in or anything - but butting in all the same, I suppose - I'm certain Octopus? wasn't accusing *you* of casual racism; he was expressing shock at the lack of shock at Jaie's casual racism. Which I admit, does seem a bit anomalous, in that others here have been attacked far worse for less offensive statements. I guess maybe the impression one gets of Jaie, namely that he's a bit nuts (no offence, Jaie, I mean you've as much yourself), gets him off the hook because people assume he's joking or being 'ironic' or whatever.
If someone has a specific problem with something I've said then please address it. Otherwise fuck off.
If you have a problem with something someone else has said then just take it up with them. Asking questions isn't such a bad idea.
5800 registered users haven't commented on this thread - are we to accuse them all of casual racism?
Right you are.Not meaning to butt in or anything - but butting in all the same, I suppose - I'm certain Octopus? wasn't accusing *you* of casual racism; he was expressing shock at the lack of shock at Jaie's casual racism.
Octopus? said:people treat it in a comedic fashion and seem to view it as carte blanche to respond in kind
Octopus? said:The fact that he received any reasonable responses at all to his posts beyond "Honestly, shut up" is somewhat telling.
Octopus? said:God, there's nothing redeeming about that post at all, and the fact that people are defending THAT (and taking many of Jaie's other posts with a grain of salt) while simultaneously criticizing much, much lesser 'offenses' in other threads is totally bewildering to me.
Octopus? said:just expressing genuine surprise that a lot of people seem unplussed by some of the things said in this and other posts by the same individual. I'm allowed to express shock at seemingly casual racism, ain't I?