Brooker on 9/11 conspiracies

william_kent

william_kent

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I was in a room full of Somali refugees on the day

I'll tell you about the reactions, unvarnished truth, if you come to the next GREAT NORTHERN DISSENUS MEETUP
 
william_kent

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we need to do a BOOK CLUB

Atta: Volume 9 (Semiotext(e) / Intervention Series, 9)​


In the summer of 1999, Mohamed Atta defended a master's thesis that critiqued the introduction of Western-style skyscrapers in the Middle East and called for the return of the “Islamic-Oriental city.” Using this as a departure point, Jarett Kobek's novel ATTA offers a fictionalized psychedelic biography of Mohamed Atta that circles around a simple question: what if 9/11 was as much a matter of architectural criticism as religious terrorism?
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one of the GREATEST PSYCHOGEOGRAPHICAL NOVELS EVER - PISSES ALL OVER IAIN SINCLAIR

the occult deconstruction of DisneyWorld rivals Ellroy

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Semiotext(e)?​

 
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Beast of Burden
craner said:
First 10 minutes of this are amazing:

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Regis' heroic attempt to talk about the weather as Kelly starts to fall apart is something to behold.

Kelly: "I just feel sick to my stomach. It's the worst thing that I can imagine."
Regis: "It's very sad. So! Thunder storms last night..."

Then, a few minutes later, at 9.12am, there's this:

"...we don't want to speculate at this point, but questions immediately arise as to some kind of navigational material, or electronics that perhaps went awry, that would cause two planes to maybe..."
"Oh no, this is war, there's no question about it. These are deliberate attacks."

The advert breaks in these uncut videos of live TV seem incongruous and spooky, too. Partly because of what was unfolding at that exact moment, partly as relics of the past. See also:




These are intense hauntological artifacts.
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

IdleRich
craner said:
Regis' heroic attempt to talk about the weather as Kelly starts to fall apart is something to behold.

Kelly: "I just feel sick to my stomach. It's the worst thing that I can imagine."
Regis: "It's very sad. So! Thunder storms last night..."

Then, a few minutes later, at 9.12am, there's this:

"...we don't want to speculate at this point, but questions immediately arise as to some kind of navigational material, or electronics that perhaps went awry, that would cause two planes to maybe..."
"Oh no, this is war, there's no question about it. These are deliberate attacks."

The advert breaks in these uncut videos of live TV seem incongruous and spooky, too. Partly because of what was unfolding at that exact moment, partly as relics of the past. See also:




These are intense hauntological artifacts.
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Yes indeed. And inevitably takes you back to where you were then like Proust's Madeline.
 
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Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
william_kent said:
I was in a room full of Somali refugees on the day

I'll tell you about the reactions, unvarnished truth, if you come to the next GREAT NORTHERN DISSENUS MEETUP
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I was an undergraduate at the time, working in a pub in Euston during the summer break between my third and fourth years. We unfortunately had this regular who was there all the time - American, late middle age, not sure where abouts in the states he was from but it was somewhere southern. None us liked him because he was a grouchy old racist twat, mildly sleazed on the female staff, and was generally a bit of an arse, but we had to tolerate him because he spent good money and never said or did anything actually bad enough to get himself barred.

Anyway, his reaction to seeing the second plane hit on live TV was to grunt "Huh - Northerners" and drain his pint.
 
shiels

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Starting this thread was my first post on dissensus I think. i was 20 and just home from a year in chicago where i smoked strong weed every day and knocked about with friends who flirted with 9/11 conspiracy. I was nevery fully in but I entertained it at the time, and was scared by it, part of the appeal is that its like real-life sci-fi/horror that the novelty seeking stoner mind is absorbed by. I remember being irritated by brooker's smug dismissal and thought it'd be a good idea to throw it to the smart people on this forum, non-committal
 
mixed_biscuits

mixed_biscuits

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Except - ahem - you're only deluding yourself, your majesty. Because to believe the "system" is trying to control you is to believe it considers you worth controlling in the first place. The reality - that "the man" is scarcely competent enough to control his own bowels, and doesn't give a toss about you anyway - is depressing and emasculating
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This doesn't ring true for those who have lived in Communist countries nor in the contemporary western context where "the system" i.e. your devices interface with the world probably knows more about you than you do.
 
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