cheers Matt re Orwell URL!
er, me, quoting Josef K., quoting, etc...
Josef K.
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That is, it is about a politics of style... It is about a certain way of staging an appeal.
that seems a fair shout to me.
(though when Zizek stages his appeals, it's not helping us arrive at any conclusion, other than we conclude he's a preening contrarian dolt.)
i meant to say that Zizek's politics are a pose, a 'style', these contrary stances that other people have already noted, and this is a fair shout in ref to somebody like a Zizek.
so what John and Matt say about him, if we want to label him.
Josef K.
I don't agree - I think Zizek is more than this. His words - and approach - carry weight; he is a cultural phenomenon who is bending contemporary discourse in a particular way
a fair cop.
i was wrong to throw that out there; a bit juvenile of me, and not helping the discussion along. although i will continue to characterise him as such
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(and also fair enough on "Surely, it isn't a question of shame.": i don't suppose we need to editorialise about Stalinism here on a fascism thread.)
but.
like Matt i, for whatever reason, am tending to home in on the emperor's new clothes aspect, if we wish to explain Zizek as phenomenon.
Padraig - i bring him up as he has now already been mentioned - was heavily into the SWP-directed Irish Anti War Movement (thanks Droid).
Richard Seymour at Lenin's Tomb is SWP as we know, writes his stuff through their party line, and i have seen him stick the boot into Zizek often enough, tbf.
(not that i'm saying Padraig being in a SWP-controlled group means he follows each and every line, necessarily, from the mothership.)
i've had
Roger Eatwell's 1996 history on a bookshelf here for years, although i've never read it. (!)
perhaps i'll start today.
has anyone ever read the OUP's reader from '95?
(i shall check out Oliver's recommendations from up-thread, in book terms.)
Ted: I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do. Whereas priests... ...More drink!
i was told once that Dermot Morgan who played Father Ted had concluded after his university studies that everybody was a fascist, incidentally.
dunno if it's true, i can't find a source for it.