0bleak

Well-known member
oh, shit - I think I just realized the reason I got really bothered over the fact that I kept hearing myself say "man" when I was talking to people on my first acid trip, it must have been because of that commercial.
 

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
In that interview that version posted Liam makes a crucial point - they just got in there before the mobile phone camera era, so those massive gigs with 10s of thousands of people they did in the mid-late 90s, the fans were actually in the moment. That could never be repeated now. They really represented the end of an era in so many ways.
 

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
It's really weird and a bit disturbing, and baffling to anyone old enough, when you see footage of big music festivals and gigs nowadays with the seas of of smartphone zombies holding their mobiles up, and when the TV camera zooms in on people performatively enjoying themselves. Oasis blew up just before that all that nonsense started, so it's understandable the people who were there at Maine road or knebworth or whatever are particularly nostalgic about it.
 

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
I liked it when he said they didn't give a fuck about the spotty herbert critics giving them bad reviews. It's become a terrible cliche of course but you can tell he means it,and they did get loads of bad reviews at the time, I remember it well
 

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
I do, quite a few anyway. They definitely always had their detractors. Maybe more a bit later when what's the story came out.
 

craner

Beast of Burden
One of the things about Oasis was the pressure that the music press got to give them good reviews.

David Bennum was lukewarm about Morning Glory and the paper never made the same mistake again.

Britpop and maybe Oasis specifically was the moment the music press was fatally neutered.

The internet just put it out of its misery.

 

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
You're right. I think morning glory got 7 out of 10 in NME iirc, big letdown, which was fair enough, actually pretty generous. But after that the hype around Be Here Now was totally ridiculous.
 

wg-

Well-known member
The first two albums were unanimous and then they turned the knives around Be Here Now when they were smashing too much coke back i think? The B sides album is the best one really, by the time they are late 99s they're all over

Think Oasis and the big britpop bollocks was probably the beginning of coke as dominant force and final step in hibernation of md as forefront, mainstream resurgence of football, lambert and butler smoke abaft

Fortutious timing. I was a kid then though really so fuck knows
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
'Attitude' really is all important with rock bands and you can tell when it's genuine and when it's not I think.
I feel like the spectre of the Manic Street Preachers haunts this discussion.
Perhaps that's the real opposition, not Oasis vs Blur but them vs MSP.
I was never into them at the time but I later met a lot of people really moved by Holy Bible - but if a last gasp for "rock as art that can change the world".
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
MSP - Queer(ish), openly idealistic, intellectual, consumed by their emotions etc. Seems a huge contrast to Oasis.
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
I saw Manic Street Preachers in Singleton Park in 1993, the free Heineken Music Festival, when they were very unpopular in Wales and the hordes of Swansea thugs reacted with a shower of glass bottles aimed at their heads. One hit Nicky Wire and he was concussed. The band went off and the festival organisor came on and swore at the crowd before eventually talking the band back on stage. They came back on and immediately played Motorcycle Emptiness at punk rock speed, glass still flying, and Richey pulled a crucifixe pose before diving into the crowd. All around me, fights were breaking out. I was 15 or 16, found it amazingly exciting and rock and roll and expected every gig I went to to be as good. It was a big, long letdown.
 
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