funny how marcus used be so against grime taking over funky but he lets a million mcs on to his sets. as ive said before, i think he just has too many mcs on his show in general now. half the time it feels like its for its own sake, just to show how much star power he can cram into one set. but i dont think its necessary. and when its just one (or two) mc, its a much better way to let both the tracks shine and be complimented rather than just buried under their voices.
Funky/London/UK House
Benny Bunter
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To be fair I don't think he has loads of MCs on every week. I don't listen to every show but its usually just Rankin and/or Shantie isn't it?
yeah i dont get to listen every single week so i could be wrong of course and i suppose im just biased towards rankin lol but it does get too messy imo when you have more than a few mcs on his show. spoils the flow.
saying all that though, i think its cool if you have mcs that dont mind being more minimal. eg - it was good when jme was on a while back. he seemed to really suit it.
saying all that though, i think its cool if you have mcs that dont mind being more minimal. eg - it was good when jme was on a while back. he seemed to really suit it.
thats true, i remember him not liking how roska would tell him to get rid of the mcs on his show, but it doesnt seem all that consistent when you consider mcs barraging their way through sets is what characterised grime, and led to it becoming its own thing, not thats whats going to happen (id actually prefer a few more of those mc driven vocals like migraine skank etc again to mcs swamping sets on radio or in a club - i dont think anyone really wants that). also, im pretty sure he did say he *was* against funky turning into grime. but hes a barrel of contradictions isnt he? (eg - he likes the hard and dark stuff, but is very pro-girly vocals too) which is what makes him compelling listening.
anyway, dont want to bring this thread back to a debate which was prob had a year or two ago. id just like to hear him do more sets without majestic and the lairier mcs i suppose though thats just personal preference (dont really like topsee that much either as he gives me a headache after a while).
anyway, dont want to bring this thread back to a debate which was prob had a year or two ago. id just like to hear him do more sets without majestic and the lairier mcs i suppose though thats just personal preference (dont really like topsee that much either as he gives me a headache after a while).
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matmustard
theta
@gumdrops quoting u here for discussion, rather than to pick at your general point, but from what i've heard recently this (mcing over beats) seems to be funky's raison d'etre right now - tim f makes a worthwhile analogy with dancehall after all - so, to push blackdown's comment further - grime 2002 to funky 2010. the difference??
Benny Bunter
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Positivity, on the whole. Not that I don't love Grime but I suppose the only real positive, feel-good alternative to Grime in the mid-noughties was US house and Rnb, which I guess a lot of people turned to until Uk Funky developed. Its pretty much exactly the same as DnB>Garage. But I suppose this is all pretty obvious by now and maybe doesn't really need going over again.
Tentative Andy
I'm in the Meal Deal
Here you go:
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Due out 13th December apparently.
Benny Bunter
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^ Dash down's out on Juno now too
Tentative Andy
I'm in the Meal Deal
This set is just fantastic - why oh why did I wait so long to listen to it properly, lol. I have 100% no problems with MC-dominated funky sets if they're going to be done like this.
DPO is perhaps as good an MC overall as Tops, but he is really good fun. Pretty sure I've heard him ID'd as the producer of a few tracks on Live shows before too.
There's some great productions I hadn't heard before on this, and there's a lot of bass on some of the tunes too: it comes over clearly on headphones even at the low bit-rate.
Can't big it up enough really - if you don't listen to Petchy every week but want to catch up on things this is the one to go for imo.
Also those couple of free Murdz tunes are well worth grabbing for anyone that hasn't already.
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Benny Bunter
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Yeah man, WTF is that tune at about 45 mins with that ridiculously massive funky bassline? Jungle style-subs...love it
Tentative Andy
I'm in the Meal Deal
No idea but yeah the bassline def jumps out at you.
"Petchy it's hot like Rio di Janeiro in here right now... we're burning up"
Benny Bunter
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Nice likkle collection of of Devine Recordings snippets. Smokeoffski might be a name to watch out for...
http://www.24listen.com/devinerecordings.html
http://www.24listen.com/devinerecordings.html
matmustard
theta
hmm.. agree on the positivity angle - both sonically & lyrically grime is (was?) obv far more aggy than funky is certainly – that was surely grime’s intention - but i feel that you’re missing my point (could of course be that i’m missing yours, you lost me from the dnb to garage analogy onwards tbh). to clarify (my intention, that is, the point is still hopefully open for discussion):
funky releases and raves are thin on the ground and, i’m paraphrasing here, a substancial proportion of the riddims are seemingly built solely to cater for the mc in a radio setting (with appropriate rewinds, when levels are reached) and maybe not intended to be listened to as stand-alone ‘tracks’. hence – and i realise that i’m painting broad strokes here - 2010 funky beats are a tool for the mc to flex.
this is nothing to do with emotional attachment to any genre, rather an observation, based on what i’m reading here and on ilx. focussing on my second paragraph, i just don’t see a noticable difference.
i’m confused more than anything, as i don’t believe you can have one (funky riddims aren’t meant to be viewed singularly) without the other (funky is becoming grime 2.0).
comments appreciated – and benny, thanks for yours
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baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
What are the good funky nights in London at the moment?
Benny Bunter
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hmm.. agree on the positivity angle - both sonically & lyrically grime is (was?) obv far more aggy than funky is certainly – that was surely grime’s intention - but i feel that you’re missing my point (could of course be that i’m missing yours, you lost me from the dnb to garage analogy onwards tbh). to clarify (my intention, that is, the point is still hopefully open for discussion):
funky releases and raves are thin on the ground and, i’m paraphrasing here, a substancial proportion of the riddims are seemingly built solely to cater for the mc in a radio setting (with appropriate rewinds, when levels are reached) and maybe not intended to be listened to as stand-alone ‘tracks’. hence – and i realise that i’m painting broad strokes here - 2010 funky beats are a tool for the mc to flex.
this is nothing to do with emotional attachment to any genre, rather an observation, based on what i’m reading here and on ilx. focussing on my second paragraph, i just don’t see a noticable difference.
i’m confused more than anything, as i don’t believe you can have one (funky riddims aren’t meant to be viewed singularly) without the other (funky is becoming grime 2.0).
comments appreciated – and benny, thanks for yours
For me, its like tim fs point earlier, in response to Blackdown. With any form of dance music I want to listen to it mixed in with other stuff 9 times out of ten. That means mixes and radio sets, with or without mcs/vocalists. If I buy records and mp3s I'll mix em on the decks at home. There's hardly any dance music that I like listening to as isolated tracks, so Funky isn't really all that unusual for me in that respect.
Probably still missing your point but I think its a fairly key thing that people overlook sometimes.
Benny Bunter
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For those that are pining for a Marcus Nasty set without MCs, well he's on now doing just that it seems.
edit: unless someone's filling in for him, not sure
edit: unless someone's filling in for him, not sure
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it is him
Benny Bunter
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yeah, he's playing a funky remix of M-Dubz 'Over Here' right now!