Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Bronn is one of my favourite characters at the moment. He's so no-nonsense he's practically a walking pint of John Smith's but Tyrion's realized he's smart as well and is employing him as much as an adviser as as a bodyguard/henchman.

I suppose he fucked up a bit with Joffrey's 'present' but even Tyrion didn't see that one coming.
 
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Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Thought the battle was pretty good, considering budget/time restrictions. Particularly liked the wildfire explosion* and the Hound** in general...

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YARP.

I've started reading the second book. It's often quite badly written but always compulsively readable. It's also great for filling in background information/atmosphere that they couldn't fit in the TV show.

p.s. Bronn is t'tits.
 
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Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Some things:

HERE BE SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY

1. Where was the fire goddess woman and/or her dark magic? Was that shadow demon thing just birthed to stab Renly? It stabbed him very well, don't get me wrong, but I'd want a bit more bang for my buck if I was Stannis.

2. I thought they were preparing for a siege lasting years (hence all the stuff about people eating each other etc.), and it all seemed to be over in a few hours. Even if Tywin hadn't turned up it seems like Stannis and co would have got through the gates within the day. I wonder if the battle lasts longer in the books?

3. Wasn't it a relief not to have any scenes with Dany and/or Jon Snow? They've really become a drag on things. Robb has been pretty marginalised this season - and when he's been in it its been a bit boring. I'm also a bit gutted that Baelish has been kept rather out of the picture. More Jamie Lannister would not have gone amiss.

I'm already sad that it's ending soon too :eek:
 
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Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Some things:

HERE BE SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY

1. Where was the fire goddess woman and/or her dark magic? Was that shadow demon thing just birthed to stab Renly? It stabbed him very well, don't get me wrong, but I'd want a bit more bang for my buck if I was Stannis.

Zactly. I was left thinking, why doesn't he just send it after Joffrey, Cersie, Tywin and anyone else he considers a threat or rival?
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
They set it up too, with the talk between Varys and Tyrion about dark magic and ''things I wish I'd never seen!'' etc. And Stannis's tactic basically seemed to be - Normandy meets Helm's Deep.

I liked the contrast between Tyrion's lengthy (though honest/cynical) speech and Stannis's curt ''Help me take this city''.

The nature of the 'one God' Stannis started worshipping is quite oblique, isn't it? Again, I wonder if there is more of an idea of this in the book.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Really enjoyed the last episode. Loads of enjoyable, memorable scenes and wrapped up some storylines that have been just plodding (or limping) along all season i.e. Dany's dragons. That entire storyline would have been better packed into one episode (well, maybe not - but there really wasn't much to it, was there?)...

Theon's speech was really rousing and I actually wanted him to go out like a (sort of) hero but obviously this is Game of Thrones so instead he gets wacked on the head and (presumably) sold out by his scumbag army. That's one of the things this show does so well - undercutting traditional fantasy epic cliches of heroism and honour.

Let's see - what else? Jon Snow actually does something for once - that was another storyline that seemed fairly tedious and now seems to be actually getting somewhere. Army of zombies/white walkers at end was totez awesome too, obviously.

Littlefinger has the hots for Sansa, that could be an interesting/depressing development.

Yeah I just loved most of it, actually, preferred it in fact to the much raved-about battle episode. It reminded me of why I loved the first series so much, for some reason.

And now I'm gutted that series 3 is 9 months away (I think). :(
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
p.s. I suppose my question about Stannis not using magic was semi-answered this week. Basically he just thought he was going to win because she told him she'd seen it, right? So he thought it was inevitable. Also it's more of a long-game/war than he anticipated, which of course means magic can come into play in the future. Magic seems to be getting more and more pronounced in the show now - we've got zomby armies, assassins who can change their faces, warlocks etc.
 
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droid

Guest
There was another shadow baby death in the book that was taken out of this season.

And - not to spoil it, but every time they do it Stannis gets a bit of life sucked out of him.
 
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droid

Guest
The nature of the 'one God' Stannis started worshipping is quite oblique, isn't it? Again, I wonder if there is more of an idea of this in the book.

Yeah... there's a bit of a subtext throughout about religion and changing beliefs, the old gods>>the seven>>Rhlorr.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Magic seems to be getting more and more pronounced in the show now - we've got zomby armies, assassins who can change their faces, warlocks etc.

I'm not averse to fantasy per se, but does anyone else get the feeling that the supernatural stuff is in danger of overshadowing the 'straightforward' (except it's not, of course) naturalistic themes, all that love/honour/betrayal/revenge/war/politics/sex etc.?

I thought the last episode was good but a bit scattershot, covering as it did seven plot arcs in one hour. The rift in the Stark camp between Robb and his dear mama is interesting, I think. And Jon Snow finally does something noteworthy and not totally shit. Couldn't help but laugh as Theon's Braveheart moment is unceremoniously cut short, but what's meant to have happened at Winterfell exactly? Surely 500 Stark men could have taken the place from 20 Greyjoy soldiers without the whole place being burnt to a cinder?

Also can't quite believe that a 'warlock' with an apparent dragon fetish is caught off guard so easily by their ability to breathe fire. And where the fuck is Bronn?
 
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droid

Guest
I thought the last episode was good but a bit scattershot, covering as it did seven plot arcs in one hour. The rift in the Stark camp between Robb and his dear mama is interesting, I think. And Jon Snow finally does something noteworthy and not totally shit. Couldn't help but laugh as Theon's Braveheart moment is unceremoniously cut short, but what's meant to have happened at Winterfell exactly? Surely 500 Stark men could have taken the place from 20 Greyjoy soldiers without the whole place being burnt to a cinder?

I haven't seen the latest episode, but in the book the Greyjoys leggit and there's some shenanigans with the Bolton bastard.
 

blacktulip

Pregnant with mandrakes
Sorry: it's just very hard to suspend disbelief sometimes when the accents are so pronounced and so familiar.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Sorry: it's just very hard to suspend disbelief sometimes when the accents are so pronounced and so familiar.

Why are there never any fantasy Brummies? Or Scousers? Ser Davos is sort of Geordie sounding, but apart from him the accent options seem to be RP, mockney, Generic Tyke and Foreign.
 
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