Kevin Shields bringing back MBV!

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Sheesh, steady on. It's a paraphrase of something Julian Cope wrote about a dreadful expression some record exec used regarding his music ("It really kicks my dick into the dirt.."), and vag seemed more applicable to those notions about Loveless' 'feminine texturology'. It was meant to be humorous, sorry you didn't get the reference.
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didn't get the specific reference but then i tend to avoid anything related to julian cope, did you get my slowdive reference though?

i wasn't suggesting there was anything inherently misogynistic in your (admittedly not all that good) analogy, although i supposed i am offended at the thought that i would be so literalistic as to get vicariously offended by it ;-)

nice to know someone else like hadaka no rallizes, they piss all over those julian cope raf/meinhof fetishists by actually being associated with an honest-to-goodness psychotic maoist terrorist faction

i'm sure i read more about that somewhere more reliable but i can't remember where :-(
 
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Just needed to cover my back after what you said - I don't want anyone thinking I might condone non-consensual vag-kicking.
 
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Everybody's going on about the sound of Loveless, but aren't the actual melodies themselves the thing that makes it a hardy perrenial on critics' lists? Like Nevermind, people can talk all they want about the production, the impulses behind the album, or the musical landscape at the time, but what it really comes down to is catchy tunes "your milkman could whistle".
 
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swears said:
Everybody's going on about the sound of Loveless, but aren't the actual melodies themselves the thing that makes it a hardy perrenial on critics' lists? Like Nevermind, people can talk all they want about the production, the impulses behind the album, or the musical landscape at the time, but what it really comes down to is catchy tunes "your milkman could whistle".
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that explains a lot

i think it explains about 23-27% of what i like about it

why do you like it?
 
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dHarry, i guess there's some alternate definition of "painterly" that is completely the opposite of the one my professors insisted on using for four years, that happens to also somehow be the opposite of what "painterly" means to these professors.

kicking vag sounds like third rate a riot grrrl band. definitely not offensive. i'd love to kick a lot of people in the balls, so whatever.

fyi: genesis identifies as "she" in the third person, apparently. i kept accidentally saying "he" and getting in trouble
 
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dHarry said:
Hmmm, and the others: "Mark Rothko's painterly reach for the sublime;", "Rothko's painterly rectangles", "Rothko's painterly handling of the canvas", "Rothko revels in color and its painterly application ","retaining the hypnotic, painterly textures which characterized Rothko's earlier work", "Rothko made a key contribution to the radical change in painterly practice"...

And this seems to clinch it:

"Abstract Expressionism -- or Painterly Abstraction, as I prefer to call it [...] a tendency that began well inside Painterly Abstraction itself, in the work of artists like Still, Newman, Rothko, Motherwell, Gottlieb, Mathieu, the 1950-54 Kline, and even Pollock"

- silly?
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isn't that essay called POST-PAINTERLY abstraction? besides, painterly abstraction and painterly are not the same term. this guy is saying he prefers to call abstract expressionism "painterly abstraction." huh? oh fuck is it greenberg? i hate that guy
 
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LOVELESS remarkably has held up incredibly well over time and sounds quite fresh and ballsy these days...I remember seeing them live and they were outright CRAP, but the record has stood the test of time. Not sure how a reformation will work with this band, but if they're gonna make money and have something to do creatively then good luck to them.
 
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this news is as exciting to me as a reformation of pearl jam.

loveless was good when it came out. it wasn't as groundbreaking as some people tried to make it. when i heard it, i basically thought it sounded like extra sugary sonic youth. still a good album though. made sense at the time anyway.

whether or not shields has it in him to be relevent today remains to be seen

hard to care really
 
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gek-opel

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Yes yes yes--- MBV Arkestra remix by far the best thing Shields has done... transforming so-so bit of faux-blaxploitation instrumental soundtrack funk into layer upon layer of kinetic tabla-laced writhing noise. Properly modern-psychedelic...
 
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Parson

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have not heard it. i guess that answers the question about his ability remain relevent if its as good you say.
 
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Errm, its from 2000. Ive not heard any of his recent stuff (I want Candy remix, anybody???) but apparently much of it is DIRE.
 
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gek-opel said:
Yes yes yes--- MBV Arkestra remix by far the best thing Shields has done... transforming so-so bit of faux-blaxploitation instrumental soundtrack funk into layer upon layer of kinetic tabla-laced writhing noise. Properly modern-psychedelic...
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Definitely agree. The way it just builds and builds is amazing. I feel physically wrung out by the end of it.
 
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gek-opel said:
Yes yes yes--- MBV Arkestra remix by far the best thing Shields has done... transforming so-so bit of faux-blaxploitation instrumental soundtrack funk into layer upon layer of kinetic tabla-laced writhing noise. Properly modern-psychedelic...
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is this the xtrmntr primal scream thing?
 
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