the rap canon needs rewriting
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luka
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They tell me don't get high, and i should try to make a living,
I tell them I'm a hustler and I'd rather make a killing
My eyes get so wide as it rise in the skillet,
I let my bitch bag it, if she spill it, Imma kill her,
I bulletproof the ride, now I feel like armadillos,
And fuck you, hospital, young money, we the illest,
And I ain't gotta lie when I tell you I'm the illest,
My flow is nasty, like C Y Phyllis,
Self made G, and them bitches know the business.
Relying on rap, but in the kitchen I'm a chemist,
And when I was 5, my favorite movie was "The Gremlins"
Ain't got shit to do with this, but I just thought that I should mention,
You looking for divine and the little intervention,
And them birds don't fly, without my permission,
I'm probably in the sky, flying with the fishes,
Or maybe in the ocean, swimming with the pigeons,
See my world is different,
Like Dwayne Wayne,
And if you want trouble, bitch, I want the same thing,
I tell them I'm a hustler and I'd rather make a killing
My eyes get so wide as it rise in the skillet,
I let my bitch bag it, if she spill it, Imma kill her,
I bulletproof the ride, now I feel like armadillos,
And fuck you, hospital, young money, we the illest,
And I ain't gotta lie when I tell you I'm the illest,
My flow is nasty, like C Y Phyllis,
Self made G, and them bitches know the business.
Relying on rap, but in the kitchen I'm a chemist,
And when I was 5, my favorite movie was "The Gremlins"
Ain't got shit to do with this, but I just thought that I should mention,
You looking for divine and the little intervention,
And them birds don't fly, without my permission,
I'm probably in the sky, flying with the fishes,
Or maybe in the ocean, swimming with the pigeons,
See my world is different,
Like Dwayne Wayne,
And if you want trouble, bitch, I want the same thing,
CrowleyHead
Well-known member
Supposedly it's either the 1st or 2nd Pastor Troy LP that's the best. No idea on Trick.
One of the issues of these lists is they jack off the artists, and they celebrate that shit... but you know, they never talk about the negative influence.
Take Cuban Linx; pre-CL, NOBODY IN NYC was a coke dealer (except the real Azie, but that doesn't count). Maybe Biggie, but even then, it was more of just a gangster rap thing, not that glammed out. Then CL Comes around, and BAM! Everyone's wearing stupid suits, pissing off the D.A., snorting in their album skits...
Nas went from trying to reach mars to moving weight. It was that simple. Nobody talks about how after that, how UGLY the NYC climate turned. It was inevitable that the Bobbito scene would emerge, because who wants to deal with a bunch of sneering fucking dudes who are really ARTISTS.
Another example, compare early Showbiz & A.G., where it's sub-retarded freestyles over funky beats, to those two attempting to be 'hard' over 'smooth' production. Shit's gross.
But will they ever address how much DAMAGE CL did? No. 'cause IT'S SOOOO GREAAAAT. People need to consider flipsides to things. Wu-Tang totally ruined a lot of 90's rap. That whole 'happy rap' movement got killed in one fell swoop.
One of the issues of these lists is they jack off the artists, and they celebrate that shit... but you know, they never talk about the negative influence.
Take Cuban Linx; pre-CL, NOBODY IN NYC was a coke dealer (except the real Azie, but that doesn't count). Maybe Biggie, but even then, it was more of just a gangster rap thing, not that glammed out. Then CL Comes around, and BAM! Everyone's wearing stupid suits, pissing off the D.A., snorting in their album skits...
Nas went from trying to reach mars to moving weight. It was that simple. Nobody talks about how after that, how UGLY the NYC climate turned. It was inevitable that the Bobbito scene would emerge, because who wants to deal with a bunch of sneering fucking dudes who are really ARTISTS.
Another example, compare early Showbiz & A.G., where it's sub-retarded freestyles over funky beats, to those two attempting to be 'hard' over 'smooth' production. Shit's gross.
But will they ever address how much DAMAGE CL did? No. 'cause IT'S SOOOO GREAAAAT. People need to consider flipsides to things. Wu-Tang totally ruined a lot of 90's rap. That whole 'happy rap' movement got killed in one fell swoop.
CrowleyHead
Well-known member
Am I who I think I am?!?!?
I'm a new Fresh convert actually. Always took the No Limit side, didn't get Cash Money until I was older for whatever reason.
I can actually do a list of "Moments where rap got it wrong." "THE TOP 50 'GOD-FUCKING-DAMNIT' MOMENTS, BY CROWLEYHEAD".
I'm a new Fresh convert actually. Always took the No Limit side, didn't get Cash Money until I was older for whatever reason.
I can actually do a list of "Moments where rap got it wrong." "THE TOP 50 'GOD-FUCKING-DAMNIT' MOMENTS, BY CROWLEYHEAD".
Slothrop
Tight but Polite
What do people think of The Rub's Hip Hop History mixes as an exercise in cannonization? They've got the advantages of not being stuck on albums, of having a lot more space to fit less obvious stuff in, of being forced to give pretty much equal attention to all eras.
But I'm not knowledgeable enough about hip hop in general to know what they've missed, so it could be skipping whole regions of stuff or whatever...
But I'm not knowledgeable enough about hip hop in general to know what they've missed, so it could be skipping whole regions of stuff or whatever...
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
my idea of good shit is if it was played on stretch and bobbito between 90-94 then it more than likely is dope.
Benny Bunter
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good 90s list with write ups here http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Tish_the_Scorpion/the_ultimate_90s_hip_hop_list____
CrowleyHead
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Someone actually put the Bo$$ album on a list. I mean, yeah, it's ghostwritten by the dude from Royal Flush out of Texas, but the fact that this list is someone who really considers P.M. Dawn and Bo$$ as SERIOUS RAP ALBUMS is profound. I like it, in other words.